RE: Help - SFTP port 22
- From: Alexandre Gauthier <gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:50:25 -0400
Thank you, I do take this a compliment :P
When doing consulting or suggesting solutions for clients, I try not to get
my personal preferences in the way of finding the solution that best suits
their needs -- I have recommended ISA and Exchange many times in the past.
The only area where I still stand strong is when it comes to IIS vs Apache.
The next IIS might change this, who knows?
And you know, I don't have the beard, arrogance and condescendence that
basically fits the typical Unix geek -- yet. In fact I don't ever recall
saying RTFM to a newbie ever. Maybe life will make me bitter at some point,
you never know! :P
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : 7 octobre 2005 11:40
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Objet : [isalist] RE: Help - SFTP port 22
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Hi Alex,
I read what you write. I'm getting the feeling that you might even be more
enlightened than the typical *IX truffles that rarely see the light of day
:)
Tom
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:34 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Help - SFTP port 22
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> >True - my lesdixyia is clearly acting up again.
>
> Most clearly :)
>
>
> >So long as the traffic continues over TCP:22, there should
> be no issues.
> >It's when ISA has to follow protocol changes that it can't
> anticipate, such
> >as happens with FTPS, that you see problems.
>
> Indeed.
>
> >If, as the <cough> Unix geek states, it "tastes like FTP, but is less
> >filling", then it's possible that there are protocol changes
> similar to
> >FTP.
>
> No.
>
> Read again.
>
> I clearly stated it used only one connection, more than once.
>
> >If this is the case (do a net cap; this will tell you), then
> my earlier
> >statements stand; ISA don't do this.
>
> Well, you know nothing ressembles an encrypted packet more
> than another
> encrypted packet. You won't see anything but SSH handshakes,
> key exchanges
> and that's it.
>
> I don't know why the heck I bother posting when nobody reads
> what I write,
> make random statements or just re-tells what I have just said
> to look as if
> they came up with it themselves. Bleh.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Help - SFTP port 22
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> If you read my post again, you will notice I wrote SFTP and
> not FTPS. FTPS
> has nothing to do with SSH whatsoever.
>
> FTPS and SFTP are two different things, one is FTP+SSL, the other is a
> custom handler running on the remote end of an SSH tunnel
> that can be used
> from the command line in the same fashion as an FTP server.
>
> Thank you for reading all my post. :)
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Envoyé : 6 octobre 2005 12:13
> À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Objet : [isalist] RE: Help - SFTP port 22
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Nope; FTPS is not SSH and SSH is not FTPS.
> Just because you have an app that uses SSH and refers to it
> as FTPS does not
> make it so.
> RFCs are different; L4+ behavior is different.
>
>
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