RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

  • From: "Steve Moffat" <steve@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ISA Mailing List" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:34:51 -0400

Go here....

 http://www.newmillnurseries.mine.nu/

See what happens

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:24 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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So there is no other way of going outside of sending people to another
site and then having that site forward them to the correct site? :)

I mean I couldn't setup another website, assigning another IP to it and
then have ISA send the http traffic for owa.site.com to this other site
which redirects it to the https? 

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:19 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Jeez Andrew...it's simple


You tell your users to goto the new site.....the index page of that site
will redirect requests to your owa site...that's it...no more no less

You had one or two replies on how to do a redirect page as I remember 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:14 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Yes but I need the person to go to http://owa.site.com and redirect to
https://owa.site.com/exchange as well as I need it to redirect
https://owa.site.com to https://owa.site.com/exchange

Understand now? :)

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:03 PM
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It doesn't....nothing to do with the owa rule.

It works for both http and https and redirects to the owa site.

Ie user goes to http or https://newsite.com/index.html

Your redirect page (index.html), then does what it's supposed to...IT
REDIRECTS to https://your.owa.site.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:54 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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So how does the OWA publishing RULE dedifferentiate between OWA and this
other site on ISA? Smoke singles don't count!! ;)

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:50 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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2nd try

 Andrew, it's very plain. You have  a redirect page to force clients to
the HTTPS site. This will point to your existing HTTPS URL!!!

1. You NEED ANOTHER WEBSITE TO HOST THIS PAGE!!!

2. You have to have your users USE THE NEW SITE TO ACCESS OWA!!

Is that clear enough???

S

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:01 AM
To: Isa Server
Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS
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http://www.ISAserver.org

I understand the fundamentals on both IIS Websites and ISA publishing
Websites. Its just that Steve's explanation is very mish mash to me.
When I help people on other forums in times when they need a break down
on how-to do something I provide, I don't however provide a mish
mash/hack suggestion like Steve does. 

It's 1. do this, 2. do this, 3. your done! :)

Besides if Microsoft wrote things the way Steve did we'd all be in
trouble! 

Andrew



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:42 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Try reading.
There is much to be gleaned from Windows help about how IIS
differentiates between web sites.
There is also much in the ISA help and MANY documents at
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/techinfo/guidance/2004.asp
http://isaserver.org.
..on how to correctly publish web sites.

It isn't "just" ISA any more than its "just" Exchange" or "just" IIS.
Granted, no one knows everything, or there wouldn't be a need for this
kind of discussion group.
Unfortunately, it's quite frustrating to the folks here that try to
offer help when your responses are limited to "just give me steps, not
references".

There are several docs that explain how to publish IIS, Exchange, OWA,
RPC/HTTP, ActiveSync and your grandmother's latest porn shots, if you
look hard enough (Fruedian?).

Take some time, read up and ask specific questions that indicate an
effort to go beyond those "I learned everything I know from the sales
dewds at CompUSA" skills.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:32 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Thanks for the info but its still not very clear.. It seems that it full
of assumptions that one knows exactly what you are talking about. Myself
and who was it, Dan?, obviously don't. 

I guess I will have call MS and ask them. 

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:28 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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OK.....In IIS you have your exchange website, called owa.blah.blah. Your
redirect page is set up to redirect to https://owa.blah.blah.

In order for this to work, (because you're using FBA ON ISA), the
external web address has to open up the  redirect page first., therefore
you need a completely different site.

Call this site what you want, as long as your owa users use this site
then the redirect will work.

It's all down to your internal dns and host headers.

S



-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 7:06 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Hi Steve, what is the Exchange box is already hosting a website, how
does it differentiate between the redirected OWA request website (A)?

Can you give me example of this?

Thanks
Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:51 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Hi Andrew, as you are using FBA on ISA, then the site needs to be
redirected back through ISA. Therefore you need to publish a NEW site,
with the index page redirecting to the OWA Site.



-----Original Message-----
From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 2:00 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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I don't follow that logic either.  I have my Exchange 2003 Server with a
hostname of MAIL, my domain name is MAPSNET.ORG, and I published it
through my ISA2004 server as MAIL.MAPSNET.ORG, so I know it works.  

I ran into that same problem, and after pounding my head against the
wall for awhile trying to figure it out, it dawned on me what it was.
Test it this way: If you can reach your OWA site using the URL
http://owa.smoothrunnings.ca/exchange, then you know everything works.
Then just add / as a path in your Publishing Rule so it can reach the
root IIS directory (on your OWA server) through your publishing rule.


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 12:21
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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I don't quite follow you Steve, 

I make a new website in IIS with any name just as long as it doesn't say
owa.smoothrunnings.ca (my OWA sites name) in the host header. And ISA
will know to go to this site how?

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:14 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Anything you like as long as it's not the name of the OWA site. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 11:31 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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Steve, 

So I create a new website under IIS, but I give it the host header name
of owa.smoothrunnings.ca is that what you are referring too and then
redirect it?

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 9:21 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

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What you need to do is, create a website (not the owa site), use that
site as the front for owa, use that sites index page to redirect to the
owa site. 

To have the site use just the fqdn then, in IIS, in the properties of
the owa site, on the home directory tab, select  a redirection to an
url. In the redirect box, use /exchange, and select the a directory
below url entered checkbox.

S

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:07 AM
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Subject: [isalist] HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS to HTTPS

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi,

I have Exchange 2003; ISA 2004 Server is doing the FBA for OWA I have
tried everything from Microsoft's method of creating a .asp file to
inserting a html file which directs the HTTP to HTTPS and everything I
try to access http://owa.smoothrunnings.ca I get "page can not be
displayed..... forbidden 403". I am thinking its an ISA thing since it
is ISA who is doing all the grunt work??

Anyhow I would like to do HTTP to HTTPS and HTTPS without the /exchange
to HTTPS with the /exchange. So if someone can help me I would
appreciate it. 

Andrew


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