Hi Guinn, Try setting the NICs on the ISA firewall to harded coded speeds, based on the speeds of the devices they're connected to. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Guinn Unger [mailto:mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:05 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems http://www.ISAserver.org Tom, That's pretty much what I expected since other people seem to be able to connect without any problems. When I have been able to connect, the stability has been fine. Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot my network/ISA to see what the problem is from here? Guinn -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:55 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Guinn, I get authentication dialog boxes from Windows 2000 and Windows XP clients, testing from behind both ISA Server 2000 and ISA 2004. Can't vouch for the stability of the connections, but I do get the option to log on. Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Guinn Unger [mailto:mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:02 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems http://www.ISAserver.org No, they are using 10.x.x.x. Guinn -----Original Message----- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:41 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems http://www.ISAserver.org Lets say your LAN is 192.168.0.0/24. (192.168.0.0 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0) Is it possible that the LAN on the other side of the VPN falls within the same range, or visa versa? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: Guinn Unger [mailto:mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:56 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > I'm not sure I understand the question (I'm a developer, not a network guy), > but I don't think so. > > Guinn > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Haam [mailto:DavidH@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:11 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Do you have the same IP address space as the target network for the VPN > connection? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Guinn Unger [mailto:mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:50 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > The laptop connects to the client just fine when connected directly to > the T1. It still does not work behind the firewall. > > Guinn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:57 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hi Guinn, > > You said you have T1 line? Plug a laptop into the T1 route and assign it > a public address for your public block and assign it a default gateway > that is the LAN interface of the T1 router. Then see if you have the > same problems. > > HTH, > > > Tom > www.isaserver.org/shinder > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Guinn Unger [mailto:mlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:22 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Tom, > > Here is the tracert result: (192.168.0.15 is my ISA Server) > > ------------ > > Tracing route to 209.x.x.x over a maximum of 30 hops > > 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.15 > 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 69.15.118.25 > 3 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms 172.22.134.141 > 4 9 ms 10 ms 11 ms 192.168.38.34 > 5 9 ms 10 ms 21 ms d3-0-1-0.a03.hstntx01.us.ra.verio.net > [128.241.3.161] > 6 15 ms 12 ms 10 ms ge-0-1-0-4.r02.hstntx01.us.bb.verio.net > [129.250.29.94] > 7 24 ms 18 ms 24 ms p16-1-0-3.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net > [129.250.5.40] > 8 15 ms 13 ms 18 ms p16-3-0-0.r01.dllstx09.us.bb.verio.net > [129.250.2.185] > 9 15 ms 17 ms 14 ms so-2-3-0.edge2.Dallas1.Level3.net > [4.68.127.41] > 10 17 ms 32 ms 21 ms so-0-0-0.bbr1.Dallas1.Level3.net > [4.68.96.117] > 11 14 ms 22 ms 33 ms so-0-2-0.mp1.Houston1.Level3.net > [209.247.11.169] > 12 14 ms 15 ms 17 ms so-8-0.hsa1.Houston1.Level3.net > [4.68.112.142] > 13 16 ms 21 ms 22 ms bigcity-core3.hou1.level3.net > [209.245.208.146] > 14 14 ms 22 ms 21 ms 209.x.x.x > > Trace complete. > > ---------------- > > I'm able to get to the server just fine (same IP address) using Remote > Desktop or a web browser. It's just VPN that is the problem. > > Whenever I am unable to get to the VPN server other people have no > problem, so I still think it's a problem on my end. > > Guinn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 1:59 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: HELP-Intermittent Outbound VPN Problems > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Hi Guinn, > > What happens when you do a tracert from the client to the VPN servers > address when its not working? The fact that it works sometimes, but not > other times, indicates that its not an ISA firewall issue, but something > to do with the underlying network infrastructure. 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