Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:31:11 -0800

I want per-process auth; only then can we know what's happening to what
according to whom.
biometrics are difficult to apply to "localsystem" apps and services...
..maybe a script?
;-)

 Jim Harrison
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:23
Subject: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration


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Hi Jim,

You bet. Web Server on the Firewall is like Mustard and Chocolate. Tastes OK
until you puke ;-)

But but but, you can require client certificate authentication AND an IPSec
transport mode connection to the Web site. And..and..and we could require
two-factor auth requiring Biometric input :-D

Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:25 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration


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You don't have to install it on the firewall; that's clear from the docs or
even Tom would have screamed.
I agree that a good auth mechanism helps here, but that doesn't mean that
another process can't hijack the admin window and take advantage of a
weakened IIS server.

I like a web-based admin; it's a fairly popular request in the NG.
It just needs to be done properly...

 Jim Harrison
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gabriel O. Zabal" <gabriel@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 07:47
Subject: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration


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I agree with Jim on Parent Path problem.
I really don´t like running a webserver on the Firewall.
Why don`t start a poll here on the list to see the real need for Web
Administration on ISAServer 2000 ??

I Don`t need.

Gabriel Zabal
gabriel@xxxxxxxxxx


-----Mensaje original-----
De: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Enviado el: miércoles, 12 de noviembre de 2003 15:46
Para: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Asunto: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration

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Hi Jim,

How about requiring user certificate authentication for the Web site? If
someone can subvert that, then its just about game over because then PKI
is dusted.

Thanks!
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:53 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration

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Hi Tom,

Perhaps; unless you web-publish it.
That's the big selling point; "admin your ISA from anywhere without the
need for MMC".

URLScan blocks parent paths by default, so you have to either:
- disable URLScan (not in my lifetime)
- disable URLScan PP filtering (not in your lifetime)
- server publish this connection (great, another dedicated IP because
the web site is "picky")

This was just a bad design choice on their part.
It's fixable with proper recoding of their pages.

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:56:44 -0600
 "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Hi Jim,

But its not going to be accessible from untrusted networks ;-)

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:38 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: FYI: Web based ISA administration

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EEeeeeek!

System requirements :
..Parent Paths must be enabled.

Bad, bad web-devs!

 Jim Harrison
 MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
 http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver
 http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 15:48
Subject: [isalist] FYI: Web based ISA administration


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