Hi Greg, Ha! You and me both. I wonder if the "hardware" firewall club members are members of the flat earth society too? :-) Tom -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:gregstelatel@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:14 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI: FW: [fw-wiz] Re: Home/SOHO "Firewall" Routers http://www.ISAserver.org Tom, I can say my hardware routers/firewall boxes have given me more trouble than I care to mention. Someone once told me they weren't susceptible to exploits like a software firewall was, hmmmmmmmmm Greg Mulholland "Firmware Upgrader" -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:08 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] FYI: FW: [fw-wiz] Re: Home/SOHO "Firewall" Routers http://www.ISAserver.org Repeat after me: "hardware" firewalls are more security than software firewalls, hardware firewalls are more secure than software firewalls.... (you get what you pay for too): 1. Linksys WiFi Gateway Remote Attack Risk Slashdot URL: <http://tinyurl.com/yuh8j> "According to InternetNews.com, a tech consultant discovered that even if you turn the remote administration feature off on a Linksys WRT54G -- the single bestselling Wi-Fi device in the world -- you can still remotely access it through ports 80 and 443. Linksys sets the HTTP username to nothing and password to 'admin' on all of its devices by default. Web site scanning from anywhere in the world to devices that have routable Internet-facing addresses would allow script kiddie remote access, at which point you could flash the unit with new firmware, extract the WEP or WPA key, or just mess up someone's configuration and change the password." 2. Netgear's silly fix for Netgear Router backdoor Slashdot URL: <http://tinyurl.com/2ffcf> An anonymous reader writes "Recently Slashdot reported that the Netgear router has as WLAN backdoor. According to this report by the news service of the German publisher Heise Netgear "fixed" the problem with a firmware update. And what is the fix? According to Heise, they didn't remove the backdoor at all. Instead they just changed the login information! They replaced the old user name 'super' with 'superman', and changed the old password to '21241036'. " 3. Benkin Routers route user to Censorware Ad Slashdot URL: <http://tinyurl.com/ysdd4> The Register has a story today about Belkin routers redirecting their users' network traffic. To me, this seems like the logical next step after top-level domain name servers piping ads to your browser. Now the routers themselves hijack the traffic they are supposed to, uh, route -- and you'll love where they send you instead. But it's OK because you can opt out. Incidentally, the Crystal Ball Award goes to Seth Finkelstein, who in 2001 quoted John Gilmore's famous aphorism about the internet, and asked "What if censorship is in the router?" _Vin _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: gregstelatel@xxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist