Tom, What I read somewhere was, that we can configure firewall client settings in the server and it has some settings like "disable" etc. is it possible to configure the firewall settings like to disable internet explorer and mozilla etc.??? If yes, how ? and willit provide a solution to my problem, like will IE and other browsers don't use the firewall client then and refuse to go to internet without proxy settings.. ?? Just thinking :) -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:57 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Tom, Hmmm. This is what I have tested so far, and u know how smart users are these days. If they know they can visit a site if they disable proxy , they will. It is a disappointment that we cant have the same feature as we had in ISA 2000. Do you know of any other web filter then which can use firewall client authentication to prevent access to web sites in addition to proxy clients. If yes, then my problem is still solved. Surf control just uses proxy authentication and that is no good for me. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 4:47 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] FW: RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, Hmmm. That I can't tell you. I can tell you that when machines are configured as both Web Proxy and Firewall clients, the Web Proxy configuration is used preferentially. I don't think the full functionality of the HTTP Redirector is included with 2004. However, as long as the users don't disable the Web Proxy client config, it will always be used HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, Unbind the Web Proxy filter from the HTTP protocol. Open the properties of the HTTP protocol definition and uncheck the Web Proxy filter. This is a global setting. HTH, Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:29 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Tom, I know that. I am not using securenat clients. What I want to know is , is there a way like in ISA 2000, where in the HTTP aapplicator filter we said "drop all http request from firewall clients"???? I don't want my clients to use Firewall client for HTTP .... I want them to use proxy. It should be proxy or it wont work. As I said surfcontrol does not work with firewall client authentication and this is causing problem. I have proxy and firewwall client installed. But if user change proxy settings or use a different browser they use firewall client and I am unable to restrict them using surfcontrol. In isa 2000, it was simple to just ay drop securenat and firewall clients HTTP traffic and forced them to be proxy. I want the same thing in ISA 2004,,,, Is it POSSIBLE ? I know I can use group policy , but I don't want that. Some user have admin rights and that's not the best solution. If it was in 2000 why not in 2004 ? I hope you understand what I am try ing to say, coz I don't find a simple solution for a very simple thing . Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:08 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Aman, If you require authentication for all rules, connections from SecureNAT clients will fail because they can't authenticate. HTH, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:00 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Tom, Still waiting for a solution. Is there nothing in ISA 2004 , like to 2000 to say "drop HTTP traffic from Firewall and secureNAt clients" ? There has to be a way in 2004 to do something which we could do in 2000 I hope u read my problem below. Please suggest . Aman -----Original Message----- From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:43 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings http://www.ISAserver.org Ok, What if they have another browser like , mozilla? So that means there is nothing in isa 2004 to drop http traffic from firewall client like in 2000 ? Thanks Scanbuy Inc Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212) 202-4318 | Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL The information contained in this email message is intended only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. The contained information is CONFIDENTIAL and LEGALLY PRIVILEGED and exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. 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John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:25 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Thanks john , > > If I force no access for anonymous use, they will still be able to access > internet when they change proxy settings in IE , coz firewall client is > installed. > > I don't want this I don't want them to mess with the proxy settings. > Also surf control doesn't seem to work with firewall clients , even though > they pass credentials. > > As I said, we had a way to say "reject http request from firewall and > securnat clients " in isa 2000. > > Don't we have anything like this in ISA 2004 ? > If no, how else can I achieve what I want ? shouldn't be that > difficult..something which was available in ISA 2000 > > Thanks > > > Scanbuy Inc > ------------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:15 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Force no access for anonymous use. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:54 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > I mean how to force users to use the proxy settings otherwise it wont work > > in ISA 2004 ? > > I mean as we use in HTTP redirector "reject hhtp requests from firewall > and > > securenat clients" in ISA 2000...how can same be accomplished in ISA 2004 > ? > > > > Please help so that I don't have to spend my Friday night (and maybe > > weekend) in the office. > > > > Scanbuy Inc > > Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator > > 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212) 202-4318 > | > > Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com > > > > PRIVILEGED & CONFIDENTIAL > > The information contained in this email message is intended only for use > of > > the person or entity to whom it is addressed. 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Jim M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Thamasett [mailto:steve.thamasett@xxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:37 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Internet explorer proxy settings > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Are they in a domain? If so, you can use GPOs (IE Maintenance > > specifically) to fix the settings. > > > > > > Steve T. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: James [mailto:jmay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 12:38 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Internet explorer proxy settings > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Hi all is there a way to setup the proxy settings in IE so the user > > cannot change them?? 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