Hi Tom, Saw your mail pop in just as I hit the send button.... Ya beat me to it! Guess I have to learn to read a bit faster... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:47 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: Microsoft: Many Firewalls are leaking http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Ara, NO. What he's saying is that you can benefit from additional application layer inspection. So-called "hardware" firewalls with simple stateful packet filtering definitely do not protect your network. So, you use ISA firewalls with AV, AS, etc. to complete the ISA firewall's role as a unified threat management device. But even without the additional stateful application layer inspection, its built-in layer 7 inspection makes is far more secure than simple hardware stateful filtering devices (some of which cost you over $30,000, although you get NetBEUI support with those 'advanced' firewalls) HTH, Tom <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> www.isaserver.org/shinder Get the book! Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls _____ From: Ara Avvali [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:40 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: Microsoft: Many Firewalls are leaking http://www.ISAserver.org So this follows my concern on forums that you can't just trust a single Microsoft solution and has to be mixed with other protections _____ From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: October 6, 2004 9:34 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] FW: Microsoft: Many Firewalls are leaking http://www.ISAserver.org _____ ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tradtke@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist Report abuse to listadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx