That's really interesting! If you don't use the firewall client on the ISA server, then are you not supposed to access the internet directly from the ISA server? Mine never works without the client installed. -Andy "Choro 007" <choro007@xxxxxxxxxxx> on 12/07/2001 08:13:46 AM Please respond to "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc: Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org Microsoft advises not to install the FW Client ON the ISA Server... ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:15:33 -0800 http://www.ISAserver.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Here's the script that takes care of it for you. Don't use SOCKS; it only confuses the issue. 1. Exit (not signoff) MSNIM 2. Copy this script to the ISA server 3. Rename the script to MSNIM.vbs 4. Run the script (cscript msnim.vbs) 5. Install the firewall client on ISA (refresh settings if already installed) 6. Start MSNIM (start, run, msmsgs) 7. Enjoy Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, 2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Villeneuve" <Christian.Villeneuve@xxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 07:52 Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim. I haven't much luck getting the File Transfer working. That was what I mainly wanted to use it for. Do you have to use Socks 4 Communication in MSN? Which rules do you have create? One more, (possible stupid question). When it references to opening a range of ports, how do you do this. I know how to create the rule for a specific port, but not for a range. Thanks in advance Jim. Chris. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:49 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org Yep; seen it, read it and tried it. What i've observed (and have the FW logs to prove it) is that MSNIM gets "stupid" for voice under the same circumstances that it works fine with file transfers. When performing file transfers, it asks the FW client for its own IP using GHBN and since I have my ISA set to report the ISA external IP as the IP for MSNIM, it gets and uses that IP when reporting back to the distant MSNIM client. When performing voice/video connections, it gets the local IP of the host it's running on and reports that back to the distant MSNIM client. I don't know if it's the FW client reporting incorrectly for a given request or if it's MSNIM voice/video making "subnet decisions". That's one for the developers to deal with. Tom is of the opinion that we may need a MSNIM "gateway" like we have for NetMeeting, and that may well be true. Either way, it ain't working across ISA yet. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Villeneuve" <Christian.Villeneuve@xxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 07:10 Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org I just checked the help on it, and they updated a lot of information about MSN messenger working behind a firewall. It does give you the information regarding XP, but references that it will work with other operating systems. Did you see the stuff Jim? http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/techinfo/deployment/natfw/fwwinme s.asp Take care, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org You won't have any success with this (yet, anyway). It's a long-running issue with no clear solution in sight. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <george.gallop@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 21:16 Subject: [isalist] MSN Messenger and Video/File Transfer http://www.ISAserver.org I have followed https://premier.microsoft.com/premier/library/default.aspx?path=/premier /kb/ en-us/Q278/8/87.ASP?KBID=Q278887 I can send video and transfer files with users behind the ISA Server but I can't with user's out side the ISA Server. MSN Chat works fine through the firewall to users on the internet. Just can't get Video/Voice or file transfers to work. Has anyone had any success with this? 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