Hi Phil, And a grenade kills 'em both :) The point is that if you got Nachi, you lacked defense in depth and it can't be blamed on the firewall. Same goes with the grenade :) Tom -----Original Message----- From: Phill Hardstaff - SPC [mailto:phillh@xxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 4:03 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: FW: CISCO ALERT - Cisco warns of holes in PIX firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Nachi behind ISA kills it stone dead (just one infected machine is enough), the point is every system has it's weaknesses, don't get too cocky guys. Maybe PIX handles Nachi OK :) Cheers Phill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: FW: CISCO ALERT - Cisco warns of holes in PIX firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, But but but but but but -- didn't you know that RDP was inherently insecure, that that you need a Linux proxy if you ever hope to get any level of security? I learned this valuable information from watch Dell advertisements on TV, so it must be true. I was thinking of a method where I could walk a floppy disk from one machine to another to make sure that I was secure. I have to do it this way because the network cables are unplugged. HTH, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:58 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: FW: CISCO ALERT - Cisco warns of holes in PIX firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org "I want HTTP administration of ISA Server" Didn't we hear those words somewhere on this list and in the NG before? I've also dealt with a customer that wanted SNMP management of ISA as well. ..idiots.. :-( Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:48 Subject: [isalist] FW: CISCO ALERT - Cisco warns of holes in PIX firewalls http://www.ISAserver.org So much for the miracle of the "hardware" firewall :-) Network World's Cisco News Alert Cisco warns of holes in PIX firewalls By Paul Roberts IDG News Service, 12/16/03 Network equipment maker Cisco is warning customers about security holes in its PIX firewall product and firewall software that runs on the Catalyst 6500 Series and 7600 Series switches. Cisco issued two security advisories on Monday describing vulnerabilities that could allow remote attackers to shut down Cisco firewalls using HTTP or SNMP requests designed to exploit the weaknesses. Certain versions of the PIX firewall can be crashed and restarted in a so-called denial-of-service (DoS) attack when they receive messages using the SNMP version 3 (SNMPv3) protocol, an updated version of SNMP, which allows organizations to monitor the status of network devices. PIX firewalls do not support SNMPv3, Cisco said. An SNMP server must be defined for the Cisco firewall in order for SNMPv3 attack to succeed, Cisco said. Catalyst switches running the Cisco Firewall Services Module (FWSM) are also vulnerable to DoS attacks using SNMPv3, Cisco said. The FWSM is software, based on the PIX Operating System, that allows Cisco customers to use their high-performance Catalyst switches as firewalls. In addition to the SNMPv3 vulnerability, a second buffer overflow vulnerability discovered in the FWSM could allow a malicious hacker using either RADIUS or TACACS+ to crash a Cisco firewall with a user authentication request sent using HTTP, Cisco said. 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