Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 17:24:45 -0700

Those articles explain the differences between how ISA and her clients deal 
with various requests.

Jim Harrison
MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
http://jalojash.org/isatools
Read the books!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sérgio Boticário" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:28 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


http://www.ISAserver.org


I'll read the web pages.
I have created the protocols rules that allow SMTP and POP3, in ISA
Server i have email without need DNS Rule
of DNS query and client's doens't have email. It's normal???!
Sérgio


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: quarta-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2002 18:18
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


http://www.ISAserver.org


Good; you can support Firewall and SecureNAT clients.
Take a read here for details of ISA client types:
http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=62
http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=61
http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=60

You'll have to create two more protocol rules for SMTP and POP3.

Jim Harrison
MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
http://jalojash.org/isatools
Read the books!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sérgio Boticário" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


http://www.ISAserver.org


My ISA Server is configured in Integrated Mode and i have two interfaces
(External Network and Internal Network).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: quarta-feira, 7 de Agosto de 2002 17:53
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


http://www.ISAserver.org


First, Web proxy can't use any protocols other than HTTP, HTTPS, FTP and
Gopher. If you need POP3 and SMTP (as your first mail suggested), you'll
have to support Firewall and/or SecureNAT clients. How is your ISA
configured now; Cache, Integrated or Firewall mode and how many
interfaces?

Jim Harrison
MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
http://jalojash.org/isatools
Read the books!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sérgio" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


http://www.ISAserver.org


sorry, but i don't understand...
my question is:
how i can configured ISA Server to make acess to internet with ONLY
proxy settings enabled and DNS rule of nslookup (DSN Query) disabled???
And always received mail of ISP...???!??!

Notes:
I tried disabled DNS Rule and the web client's, without proxy settings
in the browser, doens't had INTERNET...I had to enable proxy settings in
browser to have Internet. Ok, at the moment it works fine...But, by the
way the email of ISP doesn't received... I tried configured DNS Rule to
only allow packet's of domain accounts (DOMAIN USER's) and doens't
work...The connection to email of ISP only is make with DNS Rule enable
to All Requests...I think that is bad....

Sérgio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:13 PM
Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Yes, because the DNS Query packet filter allows ISA to make DNS
> lookups on
its own.
> Web Proxy clients don't do their own DNS lookups beyond finding the
> ISA.
>
> Jim Harrison
> MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
> http://jalojash.org/isatools
> Read the books!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sérgio" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:21 AM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>
> Ok, i have other question...
> With DNS rule of DNS Query the web client's have acess to the internet

> without proxy settings in the browser. So, it's possible to received
> the mail of ISP without DNS Rule and acess
the
> internet ONLY with proxy settings in the browser????
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:13 PM
> Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
>
>
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > That's a different issue.
> > In order for ISA to recognize a username in Web Sessions, you have
> > to do
> three things:
> > 1. enter the proxy settings in the browser (this defines a Web Proxy
> client)
> > 2. set "Ask unauthenticated users for identification" in the
> > outgoing
web
> requests listener
> > 3. give ISA access to the user credentials; either as a domain
> > member or
> with local machine accounts
> >
> > ..all this is discussed at www.isaserver.org in the message groups
> > and
> articles.
> >
> > Jim Harrison
> > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
> > http://jalojash.org/isatools
> > Read the books!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sérgio" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:53 AM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > OK, it's work.
> > But, the web client's don't need configured the proxy.
> > And i want view the web session's with username, in ISA Management.
> > So, what i can make to web client's have to configured proxy in lan
> > connections???
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 5:01 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
> >
> >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > You need to create a Protocol Rule as:
> > > Name = "DNS Out"
> > > Type = "Allow"
> > > Protocol = DNS Query & DNS Zone Transfer
> > > Schedule = "Always"
> > > Apply To = "Any Request"
> > >
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
> > > http://jalojash.org/isatools
> > > Read the books!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sérgio" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:41 AM
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, so you can tell me that the DNS Rule is configured at ISA
> > > Server? I don't understand very well... Thank's Sérgio
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
> > >
> > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Make sure you also create a DNS query rule so the internal
> > > > clients
can
> > > resolve mail server names.
> > > >
> > > > Jim Harrison
> > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison
> > > > http://jalojash.org/isatools
> > > > Read the books!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sérgio" <sboticario@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:53 AM
> > > > Subject: [isalist] E-Mail (Pop3 e SMTP) client's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In my network domain the all client's doesn't received the
> > > > e-mail by
> > smtp
> > > > and pop3 protocols. And the ISA Server computer received very
> > > > well
the
> > > > e-mail by smtp and pop3 protocols.
> > > > I configured the ISA Management with ip packet filters to pop3
> > > > and
> smtp
> > > > and a rule with allow the protocols pop3 and smtp... Thank's
> > > >
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