Tom, I think that the question (for me) is "Where do I get the rollup hotfix? Let's see.... I paid for the product..... do I have to pay for the hotfix rollup? :-) I did find reference to this problem in this months Technet (I paid for this as well) but all it said was to call PSS. Hmmmmmm......... I believe that M$ will fix the problem in ISA Server 2000 SP999999. :-) Or is there going to be an ISA Server 2003? :-) :-) Well, tomorrow I will be attempting to "break par" on a very difficult golf course so I'll deal with this next week. Perhaps I will call the Checkpoint sales rep. :-) Mark