RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
- From: "marvc" <marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:33:41 -0400
Thanks for that reply as it clears up a few of the questions I had. It
almost appears as though ISA totally ignores the TZO service that's
running on the server whose sole purpose is to manage multiple web sites
on a single dynamic interface. Or am I missing the point?
You wrote:
"If you have 3 websites published on a single unix server, how is ISA
recognizing where to send the request to."
Maybe I'm still thinking in linksys mode where as long as you forward
the port on a given server that has the proper virtual & dns hosts
configured, you should have access to whatever sites are made public.
Otherwise it seems like I have to either have separate IP's assigned to
each website or end up with each website being accessed on different
ports. I don't mind assigning a different internal IP to each of the
websites and publishing them so long as I don't have to have to change
the port and end up with something like www.nubiint.com:81.
You wrote:
"If the unix server only has 1 ip address, then you will need to publish
them on isa, by using the ip address and a different port no for each
site,"
I've published this server and it's initial ip on port 80. You're saying
publish site#2 on port81 & site#3 on port82 using the same internal ip?
Then go to the unix server and make the changes there....hmmm. That's a
toughy.
Am I understanding right or am I again missing the point.
I'll definitely be getting all of dr. shin's books in the near future.
Unable to now due to budgeting restraints. So I'm forced to learn
online, the lists, or the help.
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:34 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Right, ISA listens on the external ip for web requests by default on
port 80. You still have to allow requests through, as ISA installs in
lockdown mode.
ISA recieves the web requests on port 80 and then checks your web
publishing rules, then serves up the corresponding page if it exists.
If you have 3 websites published on a single unix server, how is ISA
recognising where to send the request to.
If the unix server only has 1 ip address, then you will need to publish
them on isa, by using the ip address and a different port no for each
site, and on the unix server you will have to assign a different port to
correspond to what you set on the web publishing rule, or use host
headers, if there is such a thing on unix.
Sounds like you have to buy both of the Great Doctor's, (Small fat guy,
wears glasses and walks with a lisp...:))....ISA books and start at the
beginning and work your way through them.
HTH
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 12:52 PM
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I had TZO support check my sites and they informed me that there doesn't
appear to be any web servers available. So I'm thinking I need to
publish a server. I go to server publishing rules and click to publish a
server. I enter the following:
Server publishing rule name: Web Server
IP of internal server: 192.168.x.x
Externl IP on iSA server: 123.123.123.170 Apply the rule to
thisprotocol:??? I don't see http listed here. Am I doing something
wrong? AS stated I've already created the Protocol rules for the TZO
service and it's running on the linux server.
I've also created destination sets for each site and web publishing
rules for each site. Yet the server isn't being seen. What am I missing?
I'm still searching for articles over at ISAserver.org.
Any reponses are appreciated
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:50 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Tom
Thanks I managed to find an article that covers publishing multiple
websites and I'm kinda stumped on configuring the inbound web requests.
I have a dynamic IP assigned to me by my ISP which seems to be bound to
the external interface along with the external IP I assigned when. I'm
not sure which of these to choose so I've added both. I think I read
that it wasn't necessary to use the dynamic IP and to only use the
external IP, but I'm not sure. Either way I configured the:
Incoming Web Requests
Destination Sets
Web Publishing Rules
I also understand now that I shouldn't do any testing internally BUT I
should be able to see my websites internally and externally instead of
this Under Construction page. Am I missing something here?
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:41 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Hi Marv,
Check out my articles on how to publish Web sites over at
www.isaserver.org/shinder Think about how the Web Proxy service
determines where to send the requests.
Also, NEVER EVER test publishing rules from internal network clients.
Esp, don't do trace routes to the external interface of the ISA Server
firewall from an internal network client.
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:37 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
http://www.ISAserver.org
Is this an ISA requirement because I haven't had to apply this before.
Are there other areas I can check in ISA to give me some type of status
on these sites?
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:27 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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The 3 websites either need different internal ip's, or need to be
published on different ports.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:57 AM
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I do a tracert on these 3 sites and get what appears to be some
conflicting information:
C:\tracert www.nubiint.com
Tracing route to www.nubiint.com [192.168.x.x] Over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms mail [192.168.x.x] This is the IP of my internal web
server.
C:\tracert www.nusolutions.biz
Tracing route to www.nusolutions.biz [67.33.148.175] Over a maximum of
30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms mail [67.33.148.175] This is the dynamic IP
assigned by my IP.
C:\tracert www.newundertakings.com
Tracing route to www.newundertakings.com [67.33.148.175] Over a maximum
of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms mail [67.33.148.175] This is the dynamic IP
assigned by my IP.
This doesn't seem right. Is it?
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:39 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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I think I understand as this is what I've done:
Protocol Definitions:
Name: TZO_Service_Port_21330
Parameters:
Port Number: 21330
Protocol Type: TCP
Direction: Outbound
Name: TZO_Service_Port_21331
Parameters:
Port Number: 21331
Protocol Type: TCP
Direction: Outbound
Name: TZO_Service_Port_21332
Parameters:
Port Number: 21332
Protocol Type: TCP
Direction: Outbound
Name: TZO_Service_Port_21333
Parameters:
Port Number: 21333
Protocol Type: TCP
Direction: Outbound
I next created the Protocol Rule:
Name: TZO_PR_Ports_21330-21333
Action: Allow
Protocol:
TZO_Service_Port_21330
TZO_Service_Port_21331
TZO_Service_Port_21332
TZO_Service_Port_21333
Schedule: Always
Applies to: Any request or Client address sets
This seems to have resolved the problem of getting the tzo service to
run on my linux server. The problem now, and it's a scary problem, is
thatneither of the other 2 sites will show up. I get that dreaded "Under
Construction" page when I attempt to navigate to either of those sites.
Is there some other step I need to perform to get my sites working
again? I do NOT want to have to use IIS to manage my sites, atleast not
these 3.
thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:27 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Hi Marv,
You need to create three protocol defintions, once for each outbound TCP
connection. Then create a Protocol Rule that incorporates all three of
the defintions. Then assign the protocol rule to the servers running the
TZO client.
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
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Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:39 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
http://www.ISAserver.org
I've got a protocol rule setup for internet access on a client set that
this server belongs to. This rule is currently set to allow all IP
traffic for all clients. My thought was that this is what was allowing
internet access to this linux server. Would I need to set up another
protocol rule for this linux server, if so how as it seems like the only
choice I have is for Client sets. I created the following:
Name: TZO_PR_Ports_21330-21333
Enable
Action: Allow
Protocol:
This rule applies to: Selected protocols
Name: TZO Service
Port Number: 21330
Protocol type: TCP
Direction: Inbound & Outbound
Port Range: 21330 - 21333
Scheduled: Always
Applies To: Any request
Is this correct or am I missing something?
tia
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 5:39 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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It's a protocol rule you need, not a packet filter.
HTH
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:21 PM
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Using the tzo client on the linux server. Was advised, by tzo support,
to create a packet filter for port 21333 which is what the client uses.
Sorry for the confusion.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:53 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Hi Marv,
How can you be using the TZO linux client on the ISA Server? You only
create packet filters for services running on the ISA Server itself. In
an ISA environment, there is no situation in which you would install TZO
on any server except the ISA Server firewall itself.
HTH,
Tom
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1
Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:48 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Thanks I found that article but haven't been able to get it configured.
I've created 4 packet filters for ports 21330 - 21333 as I'm using the
tzo linux client. I must be doing something wrong because the TZO
service doesn't start after making these changes. It hangs and state
that it's waiting for an internet connection. Even though I can surf the
web and browse network resources from that same server. It returns the
following error in a term window:
SendToSocket()::Socket operation on non-socket
" ::Bad file descriptor
Again my settings are:
Name: TZO_PF_21330
Servers that use this filter: All servers in the array
Enable this filter
File Type
Custom
IP Protocol: TCP
Direction: Both
Local port: All ports
Remote port: Fixed
Remote port number: 21330
Local Computer
This applies to: Default IP address...
Remote Computer:
This filter applies to:
This remote computer: 192.16x.1.x
Anyone care to take a stab at this?
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:31 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
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Hi Marv,
http://isaserver.org/tutorials/TZO_Packet_Filters.html
HTH,
Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder
ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1
Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp
-----Original Message-----
From: marvc [mailto:marvc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:43 PM
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Subject: [isalist] Creating packet filters for TZO in ISA
http://www.ISAserver.org
I'm trying to follow the process for creating the 3 packet filters to
get the tzo service running on my linux box and I'm kinda confused on
the process as it's my first time creating a packet filter. This is what
I have so far and I wonderif anyone can confirm whether or not it's set
up correct:
Name: TZO_PF_21330
Servers that use this filter: All servers in the array
Enable this filter
File Type
Custom
IP Protocol: TCP
Direction: Both
Local port: All ports
Remote port: Fixed
Remote port number: 21330
Local Computer
This applies to: ?????
Remote Computer:
This filter applies to:
This remote computer: 192.16x.1.x
Can someone confirm if this is correct? I'm currently searching for a
doc at isaserver.org.
tia
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Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1
Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows
Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security
Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions:
http://www.ntfaxfaq.com
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