encouraging ... :) -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:27 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Code Name Stingray ISA 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim, Due to the NDA, I can't give specifics. But there is a VPN piece that is independent of RRAS. I agree, Windows Server 2003 rocks, and I VPN gateway to gateway links (site to site) are rock solid with Windows Server 2003. Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server 2004 Beta - Coming Soon ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:27 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Code Name Stingray ISA 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org RRAS still rules the VPN roost, even with ISA2K4. With your hardware limitations (don't feel bad; mine is a single AMD K6-2/500, 256MB RAM, 4GB HDD). W2K3 networking in general is much stronger than in W2K3; RRAS included. If the installer doesn't choke on the hardware, try to replace your W2K VPN boxes with W2K3 and use it for RRAS. I think you'll be pleased. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Maks" <gmaks@xxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 06:31 Subject: [isalist] Code Name Stingray ISA 2004 http://www.ISAserver.org Good Morning and Happy New Year to you and your family Tom - Thank U for responding to my inquiry regarding the use of RRAS with ISA 2004. I guess I must be the exception, because of dollar constraints I was forced to build my ISA 2000 server on a old Dell PowerEdge 2300 with dual PII 400 processors and 512 Meg of RAM, I had to also use this box for my RRAS VPN gateway to gateway to connect all my branch offices. I was very pleased with the performance of ISA and the ease of configuring, it was RRAS that killed the project, it simply was not reliable, I would come in each morning not knowing if any of my links were up or down, I had to constantly monitor it and when it did break, it seemed so temperamental when I initiated a reconnect, I had to many times down grade my L2TP to PPTP just to get to connect and even then it was not a given that it would. Like I mentioned earlier, I ran several traces to make sure the correct information was being passed during the tunnel setup, all seemed correct, but to wait many minutes in most cases up to 5 minutes or more until all end to end negotiations are complete seems a bit unreasonable, especially when the VPN link is so critical to daily business operations, I was forced to abandon RRAS. So I was hoping ISA 2004 would employ a different VPN architecture, something different from a Dialup Persistent approach. I will wait to see if I can get my hands on a beta copy in the next month or 2, if you have any suggestions on how I could get a beta copy please pass this along. 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