[isalist] Re: Cert for OWA

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:25:50 -0700

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-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Greg Mulholland
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 14:19
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA

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Five is right out!

Greg Mulholland
'"You make my software turn to hardware !"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:17 AM
Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA


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Three shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting
shall be "three."

t


On 5/22/06 7:21 AM, "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:

> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> I see your cornfussion.
>
> You don't bind the listener to separate paths; you use the same listener
> for two separate rules that use the pat to distinguish between web
> sites.
> Also, you can't associate web listeners with anything but web publishing
> rules.  Thus, the access rule idea is right out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Young, Gerald G
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:05 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
> This has been an interesting thread to follow.  My head is still
> spinning.
>
>
>
> For the time being, I'll leave the binding same listener to two
> different paths alone; that's a bit confusing for me still. ;)
>
>
>
> Andy, here is what I would do in your case.  You essentially have two
> sites.  One for static content - from the sounds of it - and one for
> OWA.  Rather than trying to tie the same www.domain.com to two different
> paths I'd make it a bit simpler.  For your static content, I'd use
> www.domain.com.  For your OWA content, I'd use something like
> webmail.domain.com.  This would end up with two separate access rules.
> If you wanted only one cert to be used for both, you could get a
> wildcard cert for *.domain.com, tie that to a single listener that is
> then used by both access rules.
>
>
>
> Just my $.02 but I hope this might help you.
>
> Cordially yours,
> Jerry G. Young II
>   MCSE (4.0/W2K)
> Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead
> ECNS Microsoft Engineering
> Unisys
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> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>
>
> LOL
>
>
>
> Mail Server Publishing Wizard creates a rule in your firewall Polices
> right? Sure you need to use the wizard to create the rule, but in the
> end it's a rule not a wizard.
>
>
>
> Is it possible to publish a web server using a cert for www.domain.com
> for www.domain.com/sitefolder/index.html to LAN IP 192.168.1.1 while
> using the "Mail Server Publishing Wizard" to create the OWA rule to
> publish OWA via SSL www.domain.com for www.domain.com/exchange on LAN IP
> 192.168.1.2 ??
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> THIS IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAIL SERVER PUBLISHING RULE. GOT IT???????
>
>
>
> If the question is "can I created two Web Publishing Rules" the answer
>
> is yes.
>
>
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>
> Site: www.isaserver.org
>
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:47 AM
>
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>
>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>
>
>> Okay smart ass.
>
>>
>
>> It is possible to publish a web site on https on www.domain.com at the
>
>> same time publish OWA using the mail server publishing rule
>
>> on the same
>
>> cert, yet both machines on the LAN are in different places?
>
>>
>
>> Andrew
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM
>
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>
>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>
>
>> What do you mean by "publishing a mail server"?
>
>>
>
>> It's a meaningless phrase, like "open a port".
>
>>
>
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>
>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>
>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>
>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:17 AM
>
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>
>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>
>
>>> Your very good at twisting things around aren't you Tom
>
>> when you know
>
>>> very well the point I was getting across in the first place.
>
>>> So are you
>
>>> saying that I can publish the web server and mail server on
>
>>> the same URL
>
>>> and Cert?
>
>>>
>
>>> Andrew
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:58 AM
>
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>
>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>
>
>>> For inbound connections, there are only Web Publishing Rules
>
>>> and Server
>
>>> Publishing Rules
>
>>>
>
>>> There is no "mail server publishing rule" although there
>
>>> might be a Mail
>
>>> Server Publishing Wizard.
>
>>>
>
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>
>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>
>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:55 AM
>
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>
>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> The OWA site is a mail publishing rule. It use have FBA. The
>
>>>> other site
>
>>>> I agree is not a mail publishing rule thus would require the
>
>>>> web server
>
>>>> publishing rule but can both be run off the same URL,
>
>>>> different servers
>
>>>> with different paths?
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Andrew
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:31 AM
>
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>
>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Must using different path in each rule.
>
>>>> Don't use the mail server publishing rule for non-mail websites.
>
>>>> Create a new rule and specify only the app pat in that rule.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:05 AM
>
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>
>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>
>
>>>> If I create the website publishing rule for the website, am
>
>>> I able to
>
>>>> create an Mail server publishing rule for OWA using the same cert?
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Andrew
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:11 AM
>
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>
>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I read someone that application layer inspection firewalls
>
>>>> are actually
>
>>>> able to take information in the application layer headers
>
>>> and data and
>
>>>> make intelligent decisions based on that data. Yes, I
>
>>> remember now, I
>
>>>> wrote a 1000+ book about it and the solution is in there. Go
>
>>>> to the Web
>
>>>> Publishing chapter. You'll solve all these SSL problems and
>
>>>> the current
>
>>>> one.
>
>>>>
>
>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>
>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>
>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>
>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>
>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>
>> Andrew English
>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:13 AM
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Yes but if the request is for the following website is
>
>>>>> www.autosoldnow.com how does it know under the web server
>
>>> publishing
>
>>>>> rule that anything with /exchange goes to serverA while
>
>>>> anything with
>
>>>>> /ssapp/asn.html goes to serverB?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Andrew
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:06 AM
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> You
>
>>>>> Don't
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> You create two separate rules, Andy.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 20:49
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Uhm okay Jim so how to I tell ISA the following under one
>
>>>>> server publish
>
>>>>> website rule?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> https://www.autosoldnow.com/ssapp/asn.html goes to 192.168.1.10
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> https://www.autsoldnow.com/exchange goes to 192.168.1.2
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Andrew
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:05 PM
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> ..so don't use the same listener for both sites.
>
>>>>>
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>>>>> C'mon, Andy - take a moment to think it through.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:38 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> The problem Jim is there web site doesn't use IIS it uses
>
>>>>> Jboss which is
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> a Java Application Server, normally Jboss sits on Tomcat
>
>>>> but this time
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> around there isn't any Tomcat running so I am not sure what
>
>>>> the script
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> kiddies have done. There is no Tomcat server running under
>
>>>>> services.msc,
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>>>>>
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>>>>> there is no apache running anywhere, it all runs from one box.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The second box of course runs Exchange 2003 on top of AD
>
>>>> which doesn't
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> want swing for me without telling me that the version of AD
>
>>>> is not the
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>>>>>
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>>>>> same as the other 2003 server even though I raised the domain
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>>>>> and forest
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>>>>>
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>>>>> levels to 2003.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:59 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> This is called "redirect to HTTPS" and is supported in IIS.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> You can even do it with ISA if you use the
>
>> isa_redirects package I
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>>>>>
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>>>>> built.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 15:08
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> As for OWA we are in the process of buying a separate cert
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>>>>> for that. As
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>>>>>
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>>>>> before what was happening is the had their Linux box
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>>>> flipping the HTTP
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> to HTTPS for both the web and exchange site which both
>
>> run on two
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> different LAN servers. Since the dealers themselves are
>
>>> too computer
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> illiterate to know what Internet Explorer is let alone where
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>>>>> the Address
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> bar is located we had to keep the cert for the web site and
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>>>>> flip to HTTP
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>>>>>
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>>>>> so that portions of the site what stopped working when
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>>> the cert was
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>>>>>
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>>>>> originally installed can function normally again.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:47 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> ..then the subject is irrelevant to the question?
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>>>>>
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>>>>> "Cert for OWA" seems to indicate to the rest of us that
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>>>> this was about
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> OWA publishing.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    Jim Harrison
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 14:49
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> Ah no.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> The username and passwords are only contained within the
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>>>> site itself,
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>>>>>
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>>>>> they are not associated to AD in anyway shape or form. So
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>>> if someone
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> wants to see what dealerA has sold on the network be my
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>> guess, but
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> they're login name and password don't work where else but on the
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> website.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> ________________________________
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Morgan
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:18 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> It really does not mater if there is not personal or
>
>>>> confidential info
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> on the site, if you pass the user id and password via
>
>>> http the user
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> domain credentials can be compromised, which someone could
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>>>> then use to
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>>>>>
>
>>>>> login to VPN etc.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           -----Original Message-----
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew English
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:56 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Hi Gerald,
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Thanks for the bit of information as it never
>
>>>>> crossed my mind
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> that without SSL installed usernames and passwords are
>
>>> sent in clear
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> text format.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Actually the site is more broken with the SSL
>
>>>>> enabled then it
>
>>>>> is
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> without it. So I am not too worried as it changing to a
>
>> different
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> front-end/back-end within the coming months which will
>
>>>> switch back to
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> using SSL. It's more important if people can access the
>
>>>> site correctly
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> now then to have them calling us everyday asking what's
>
>>>> wrong, and yes
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> we are aware the trade off it has, but since the site
>
>>>> doesn't contain
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> and personal or confidential information we are not too
>
>>>>> worried about.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Regards,
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Andrew
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> ________________________________
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
>
>>>>> Young, Gerald
>
>>>>> G
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Sent: Fri 19/05/2006 3:16 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           How are you connecting then?
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           https:// is for SSL.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           http:// does not use SSL or the certificate you just
>
>>>>> installed.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           I hope you're not planning on authenticating
>
>>>> users over just
>
>>>>> an
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> http connection: the username and password will be sent in
>
>>>> clear text
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> that anyone can grab should they be listening.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Cordially yours,
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Jerry G. Young II
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>             MCSE (4.0/W2K)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>           ECNS Microsoft Engineering
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Unisys
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>           11493 Sunset Hills Rd.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>           Reston, VA 20190
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Office: 703-579-2727
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Cell: 703-625-1468
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>           THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL
>
>>>> AND/OR OTHERWISE
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended
>
>>>>> recipient.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> If you received this in error, please contact the sender and
>
>>>>> delete the
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> ________________________________
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>
>> Andrew English
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 3:08 PM
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           I figured it out.. After I exported the SSL
>
>>> cert to pfx on
>
>>>>> IIS6
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> and imported it into ISA I was able to surf to the site,
>
>>>> however I had
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> enabled SSL on the webpage and for some reason it was
>
>>>> telling me I had
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> to https:// to the site which I was doing, as soon as I
>
>>> removed the
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> (required SSL) from the web site I was able to access it.
>
>>>>> Then I applied
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>> the html I had to redirect the site back to http. (grin)
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Thanks for those who helped I really do appreciate it!
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Regards,
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>           Andrew
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>           --
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>>>>>
>
>>>>>           No virus found in this incoming message.
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>>>>>           Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 -
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>>>>> 5/18/2006
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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