[isalist] Re: Cert for OWA

  • From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:17:41 -0700

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shall be "three." 

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On 5/22/06 7:21 AM, "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh to all:

> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>   
> I see your cornfussion.
> 
> You don't bind the listener to separate paths; you use the same listener
> for two separate rules that use the pat to distinguish between web
> sites.
> Also, you can't associate web listeners with anything but web publishing
> rules.  Thus, the access rule idea is right out.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Young, Gerald G
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:05 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
> This has been an interesting thread to follow.  My head is still
> spinning.
> 
>  
> 
> For the time being, I'll leave the binding same listener to two
> different paths alone; that's a bit confusing for me still. ;)
> 
>  
> 
> Andy, here is what I would do in your case.  You essentially have two
> sites.  One for static content - from the sounds of it - and one for
> OWA.  Rather than trying to tie the same www.domain.com to two different
> paths I'd make it a bit simpler.  For your static content, I'd use
> www.domain.com.  For your OWA content, I'd use something like
> webmail.domain.com.  This would end up with two separate access rules.
> If you wanted only one cert to be used for both, you could get a
> wildcard cert for *.domain.com, tie that to a single listener that is
> then used by both access rules.
> 
>  
> 
> Just my $.02 but I hope this might help you.
> 
> Cordially yours,
> Jerry G. Young II
>   MCSE (4.0/W2K)
> Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead
> ECNS Microsoft Engineering
> Unisys 
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> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:58 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>  
> 
> LOL
> 
>  
> 
> Mail Server Publishing Wizard creates a rule in your firewall Polices
> right? Sure you need to use the wizard to create the rule, but in the
> end it's a rule not a wizard.
> 
>  
> 
> Is it possible to publish a web server using a cert for www.domain.com
> for www.domain.com/sitefolder/index.html to LAN IP 192.168.1.1 while
> using the "Mail Server Publishing Wizard" to create the OWA rule to
> publish OWA via SSL www.domain.com for www.domain.com/exchange on LAN IP
> 192.168.1.2 ??
> 
>  
> 
> Andrew
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:44 PM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
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>   
> 
> THIS IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAIL SERVER PUBLISHING RULE. GOT IT???????
> 
>  
> 
> If the question is "can I created two Web Publishing Rules" the answer
> 
> is yes.
> 
>  
> 
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> 
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> 
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> 
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> 
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:47 AM
> 
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>> 
> 
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>   
> 
>> Okay smart ass. 
> 
>> 
> 
>> It is possible to publish a web site on https on www.domain.com at the
> 
>> same time publish OWA using the mail server publishing rule
> 
>> on the same
> 
>> cert, yet both machines on the LAN are in different places?
> 
>> 
> 
>> Andrew
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> 
>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM
> 
>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>> 
> 
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>   
> 
>> What do you mean by "publishing a mail server"?
> 
>> 
> 
>> It's a meaningless phrase, like "open a port".
> 
>> 
> 
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> 
>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> 
>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> 
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> 
>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>> 
> 
>>  
> 
>> 
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:17 AM
> 
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>   
> 
>>> Your very good at twisting things around aren't you Tom
> 
>> when you know
> 
>>> very well the point I was getting across in the first place.
> 
>>> So are you
> 
>>> saying that I can publish the web server and mail server on
> 
>>> the same URL
> 
>>> and Cert?
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> Andrew
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:58 AM
> 
>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>   
> 
>>> For inbound connections, there are only Web Publishing Rules
> 
>>> and Server
> 
>>> Publishing Rules
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> There is no "mail server publishing rule" although there
> 
>>> might be a Mail
> 
>>> Server Publishing Wizard.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> 
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> 
>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> 
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> 
>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>>> 
> 
>>>  
> 
>>> 
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:55 AM
> 
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> The OWA site is a mail publishing rule. It use have FBA. The
> 
>>>> other site
> 
>>>> I agree is not a mail publishing rule thus would require the
> 
>>>> web server
> 
>>>> publishing rule but can both be run off the same URL,
> 
>>>> different servers
> 
>>>> with different paths?
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Andrew
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:31 AM
> 
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> Must using different path in each rule.
> 
>>>> Don't use the mail server publishing rule for non-mail websites.
> 
>>>> Create a new rule and specify only the app pat in that rule.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:05 AM
> 
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> If I create the website publishing rule for the website, am
> 
>>> I able to
> 
>>>> create an Mail server publishing rule for OWA using the same cert?
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Andrew
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:11 AM
> 
>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> I read someone that application layer inspection firewalls
> 
>>>> are actually
> 
>>>> able to take information in the application layer headers
> 
>>> and data and
> 
>>>> make intelligent decisions based on that data. Yes, I
> 
>>> remember now, I
> 
>>>> wrote a 1000+ book about it and the solution is in there. Go
> 
>>>> to the Web
> 
>>>> Publishing chapter. You'll solve all these SSL problems and
> 
>>>> the current
> 
>>>> one.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> 
>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> 
>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> 
>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> 
>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>  
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> 
>> Andrew English
> 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:13 AM
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>>   
> 
>>>>> Yes but if the request is for the following website is
> 
>>>>> www.autosoldnow.com how does it know under the web server
> 
>>> publishing
> 
>>>>> rule that anything with /exchange goes to serverA while
> 
>>>> anything with
> 
>>>>> /ssapp/asn.html goes to serverB?
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Andrew
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:06 AM
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>>   
> 
>>>>> You
> 
>>>>> Don't
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> You create two separate rules, Andy.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> 
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> 
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> 
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 20:49
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Uhm okay Jim so how to I tell ISA the following under one
> 
>>>>> server publish
> 
>>>>> website rule?
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> https://www.autosoldnow.com/ssapp/asn.html goes to 192.168.1.10
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> https://www.autsoldnow.com/exchange goes to 192.168.1.2
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Andrew
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:05 PM
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>   
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> ..so don't use the same listener for both sites.
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> C'mon, Andy - take a moment to think it through.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:38 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>   
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> The problem Jim is there web site doesn't use IIS it uses
> 
>>>>> Jboss which is
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> a Java Application Server, normally Jboss sits on Tomcat
> 
>>>> but this time
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> around there isn't any Tomcat running so I am not sure what
> 
>>>> the script
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> kiddies have done. There is no Tomcat server running under
> 
>>>>> services.msc,
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> there is no apache running anywhere, it all runs from one box.
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> The second box of course runs Exchange 2003 on top of AD
> 
>>>> which doesn't
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> want swing for me without telling me that the version of AD
> 
>>>> is not the
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> same as the other 2003 server even though I raised the domain
> 
>>>>> and forest
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> levels to 2003.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:59 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>   
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> This is called "redirect to HTTPS" and is supported in IIS.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> You can even do it with ISA if you use the
> 
>> isa_redirects package I
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> built.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 15:08
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>   
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> As for OWA we are in the process of buying a separate cert
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>>>>> for that. As
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> before what was happening is the had their Linux box
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>>>> flipping the HTTP
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> to HTTPS for both the web and exchange site which both
> 
>> run on two
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> different LAN servers. Since the dealers themselves are
> 
>>> too computer
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> illiterate to know what Internet Explorer is let alone where
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>>>>> the Address
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> bar is located we had to keep the cert for the web site and
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>>>>> flip to HTTP
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> so that portions of the site what stopped working when
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>>> the cert was
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> originally installed can function normally again.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:47 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>   
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> ..then the subject is irrelevant to the question?
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> "Cert for OWA" seems to indicate to the rest of us that
> 
>>>> this was about
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> OWA publishing.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    Jim Harrison
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    http://isatools.org
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>    Read the help / books / articles!
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 14:49
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> Ah no.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> The username and passwords are only contained within the
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>>>> site itself,
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> they are not associated to AD in anyway shape or form. So
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>>> if someone
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> wants to see what dealerA has sold on the network be my
> 
>> guess, but
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> they're login name and password don't work where else but on the
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> website.  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> Andrew
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ________________________________
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Mark Morgan
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:18 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> It really does not mater if there is not personal or
> 
>>>> confidential info
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> on the site, if you pass the user id and password via
> 
>>> http the user
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> domain credentials can be compromised, which someone could
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>>>> then use to
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> login to VPN etc.
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>           -----Original Message-----
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew English
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:56 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>>           Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
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>>>>> 
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>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Hi Gerald,
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Thanks for the bit of information as it never
> 
>>>>> crossed my mind
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> that without SSL installed usernames and passwords are
> 
>>> sent in clear
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> text format. 
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Actually the site is more broken with the SSL
> 
>>>>> enabled then it
> 
>>>>> is
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> without it. So I am not too worried as it changing to a
> 
>> different
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> front-end/back-end within the coming months which will
> 
>>>> switch back to
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> using SSL. It's more important if people can access the
> 
>>>> site correctly
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> now then to have them calling us everyday asking what's
> 
>>>> wrong, and yes
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> we are aware the trade off it has, but since the site
> 
>>>> doesn't contain
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> and personal or confidential information we are not too
> 
>>>>> worried about.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Regards,
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Andrew
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> ________________________________
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
> 
>>>>> Young, Gerald
> 
>>>>> G
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Sent: Fri 19/05/2006 3:16 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           How are you connecting then?
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           https:// is for SSL.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           http:// does not use SSL or the certificate you just
> 
>>>>> installed.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           I hope you're not planning on authenticating
> 
>>>> users over just
> 
>>>>> an
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> http connection: the username and password will be sent in
> 
>>>> clear text
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> that anyone can grab should they be listening.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Cordially yours,
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Jerry G. Young II
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>             MCSE (4.0/W2K)
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           ECNS Microsoft Engineering
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Unisys
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           11493 Sunset Hills Rd.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Reston, VA 20190
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Office: 703-579-2727
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Cell: 703-625-1468
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL
> 
>>>> AND/OR OTHERWISE
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended
> 
>>>>> recipient.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> If you received this in error, please contact the sender and
> 
>>>>> delete the
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> e-mail and its attachments from all computers.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> ________________________________
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> 
>> Andrew English
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 3:08 PM
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           I figured it out.. After I exported the SSL
> 
>>> cert to pfx on
> 
>>>>> IIS6
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> and imported it into ISA I was able to surf to the site,
> 
>>>> however I had
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> enabled SSL on the webpage and for some reason it was
> 
>>>> telling me I had
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> to https:// to the site which I was doing, as soon as I
> 
>>> removed the
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> (required SSL) from the web site I was able to access it.
> 
>>>>> Then I applied
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> the html I had to redirect the site back to http. (grin)
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Thanks for those who helped I really do appreciate it!
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Regards,
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Andrew
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>            
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           --
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           No virus found in this incoming message.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>           Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 -
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>>>>> Release Date:
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> 5/18/2006
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>>  
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>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> --
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> 
>>>>> 
> 
>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 - Release
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>>>>> Date: 5/18/2006
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