[isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
- From: "Andrew English" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:47:15 -0400
http://www.ISAserver.org
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Okay smart ass.
It is possible to publish a web site on https on www.domain.com at the
same time publish OWA using the mail server publishing rule on the same
cert, yet both machines on the LAN are in different places?
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:32 PM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
http://www.ISAserver.org
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What do you mean by "publishing a mail server"?
It's a meaningless phrase, like "open a port".
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:17 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Your very good at twisting things around aren't you Tom when you know
> very well the point I was getting across in the first place.
> So are you
> saying that I can publish the web server and mail server on
> the same URL
> and Cert?
>
> Andrew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:58 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> For inbound connections, there are only Web Publishing Rules
> and Server
> Publishing Rules
>
> There is no "mail server publishing rule" although there
> might be a Mail
> Server Publishing Wizard.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:55 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > The OWA site is a mail publishing rule. It use have FBA. The
> > other site
> > I agree is not a mail publishing rule thus would require the
> > web server
> > publishing rule but can both be run off the same URL,
> > different servers
> > with different paths?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:31 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Must using different path in each rule.
> > Don't use the mail server publishing rule for non-mail websites.
> > Create a new rule and specify only the app pat in that rule.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:05 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > If I create the website publishing rule for the website, am
> I able to
> > create an Mail server publishing rule for OWA using the same cert?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:11 AM
> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I read someone that application layer inspection firewalls
> > are actually
> > able to take information in the application layer headers
> and data and
> > make intelligent decisions based on that data. Yes, I
> remember now, I
> > wrote a 1000+ book about it and the solution is in there. Go
> > to the Web
> > Publishing chapter. You'll solve all these SSL problems and
> > the current
> > one.
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:13 AM
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yes but if the request is for the following website is
> > > www.autosoldnow.com how does it know under the web server
> publishing
> > > rule that anything with /exchange goes to serverA while
> > anything with
> > > /ssapp/asn.html goes to serverB?
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:06 AM
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > You
> > > Don't
> > >
> > > You create two separate rules, Andy.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > Jim Harrison
> > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > http://isatools.org
> > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 20:49
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > > Uhm okay Jim so how to I tell ISA the following under one
> > > server publish
> > > website rule?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.autosoldnow.com/ssapp/asn.html goes to 192.168.1.10
> > >
> > > https://www.autsoldnow.com/exchange goes to 192.168.1.2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:05 PM
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ..so don't use the same listener for both sites.
> > >
> > > C'mon, Andy - take a moment to think it through.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:38 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem Jim is there web site doesn't use IIS it uses
> > > Jboss which is
> > >
> > > a Java Application Server, normally Jboss sits on Tomcat
> > but this time
> > >
> > > around there isn't any Tomcat running so I am not sure what
> > the script
> > >
> > > kiddies have done. There is no Tomcat server running under
> > > services.msc,
> > >
> > > there is no apache running anywhere, it all runs from one box.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The second box of course runs Exchange 2003 on top of AD
> > which doesn't
> > >
> > > want swing for me without telling me that the version of AD
> > is not the
> > >
> > > same as the other 2003 server even though I raised the domain
> > > and forest
> > >
> > > levels to 2003.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:59 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is called "redirect to HTTPS" and is supported in IIS.
> > >
> > > You can even do it with ISA if you use the isa_redirects package I
> > >
> > > built.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Jim Harrison
> > >
> > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > >
> > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > >
> > > http://isatools.org
> > >
> > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 15:08
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As for OWA we are in the process of buying a separate cert
> > > for that. As
> > >
> > > before what was happening is the had their Linux box
> > flipping the HTTP
> > >
> > > to HTTPS for both the web and exchange site which both run on two
> > >
> > > different LAN servers. Since the dealers themselves are
> too computer
> > >
> > > illiterate to know what Internet Explorer is let alone where
> > > the Address
> > >
> > > bar is located we had to keep the cert for the web site and
> > > flip to HTTP
> > >
> > > so that portions of the site what stopped working when
> the cert was
> > >
> > > originally installed can function normally again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:47 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ..then the subject is irrelevant to the question?
> > >
> > > "Cert for OWA" seems to indicate to the rest of us that
> > this was about
> > >
> > > OWA publishing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Jim Harrison
> > >
> > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > >
> > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > >
> > > http://isatools.org
> > >
> > > Read the help / books / articles!
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 14:49
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah no.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The username and passwords are only contained within the
> > site itself,
> > >
> > > they are not associated to AD in anyway shape or form. So
> if someone
> > >
> > > wants to see what dealerA has sold on the network be my guess, but
> > >
> > > they're login name and password don't work where else but on the
> > >
> > > website.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >
> > > On Behalf Of Mark Morgan
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:18 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It really does not mater if there is not personal or
> > confidential info
> > >
> > > on the site, if you pass the user id and password via
> http the user
> > >
> > > domain credentials can be compromised, which someone could
> > then use to
> > >
> > > login to VPN etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:56 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gerald,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the bit of information as it never
> > > crossed my mind
> > >
> > > that without SSL installed usernames and passwords are
> sent in clear
> > >
> > > text format.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually the site is more broken with the SSL
> > > enabled then it
> > > is
> > >
> > > without it. So I am not too worried as it changing to a different
> > >
> > > front-end/back-end within the coming months which will
> > switch back to
> > >
> > > using SSL. It's more important if people can access the
> > site correctly
> > >
> > > now then to have them calling us everyday asking what's
> > wrong, and yes
> > >
> > > we are aware the trade off it has, but since the site
> > doesn't contain
> > >
> > > and personal or confidential information we are not too
> > > worried about.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
> > > Young, Gerald
> > > G
> > >
> > > Sent: Fri 19/05/2006 3:16 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How are you connecting then?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https:// is for SSL.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http:// does not use SSL or the certificate you just
> > > installed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope you're not planning on authenticating
> > users over just
> > > an
> > >
> > > http connection: the username and password will be sent in
> > clear text
> > >
> > > that anyone can grab should they be listening.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cordially yours,
> > >
> > > Jerry G. Young II
> > >
> > > MCSE (4.0/W2K)
> > >
> > > Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead
> > >
> > > ECNS Microsoft Engineering
> > >
> > > Unisys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 11493 Sunset Hills Rd.
> > >
> > > Reston, VA 20190
> > >
> > > Office: 703-579-2727
> > >
> > > Cell: 703-625-1468
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > recipient.
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew English
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 3:08 PM
> > >
> > > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: Cert for OWA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I figured it out.. After I exported the SSL
> cert to pfx on
> > > IIS6
> > >
> > > and imported it into ISA I was able to surf to the site,
> > however I had
> > >
> > > enabled SSL on the webpage and for some reason it was
> > telling me I had
> > >
> > > to https:// to the site which I was doing, as soon as I
> removed the
> > >
> > > (required SSL) from the web site I was able to access it.
> > > Then I applied
> > >
> > > the html I had to redirect the site back to http. (grin)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for those who helped I really do appreciate it!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > >
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> > >
> > > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 -
> > > Release Date:
> > >
> > > 5/18/2006
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > >
> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > >
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