RE: Boku upstream unavailable alerts

  • From: "Thomas W. Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:24:35 -0500

Hi Shawn,

Hmmm. OK, I just use a little different nomenclature. Tomato/Tomaaato
:-)

It might be that the upstream is a little slow in responding, since it
happens when the server is busy. Does the packet filter log show
anything interesting?

Thanks!
Tom

Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT7) [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:54 PM
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Hi Tom,

It is a proxy chain (at least that's how I've always referred to it and
seen
it referred to).  Here's the picture:

Client --> ISA (cache only) --> Non-ISA Firewall's HTTP Proxy

-Shawn

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Shawn R. Quillman
Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT7
38000 Hills Tech Drive
Farmington Hills, MI  48331
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:43 PM
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Hi Shawn,

Sort of a "pseudo" chain, since I believe only Firewall chaining is
actual chaining. When you don't have direct communication with the
upstream Web Proxy service, you're not chaining, you're just a SecureNAT
client. Is that the case?

Thanks!
Tom

Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT7) [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:30 PM
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Yes, sorta.  The ISA's the only thing that caches.  More of a chain than
a
hierarchical cache.

-Shawn

-----
Shawn R. Quillman
Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT7
38000 Hills Tech Drive
Farmington Hills, MI  48331
(248) 553-1164 (P)     (248) 848-2855 (F)
shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W. Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:06 PM
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Hi Shawn,

As you using hierarchical Web proxy caching?

Thanks!

Tom

Thomas W Shinder
www.isaserver.org/shinder 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT7) [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:29 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Boku upstream unavailable alerts

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I am getting monstrous numbers of 'The Web Proxy service detected that
the
upstream proxy 'xxxx' is not available.' alerts, sometimes in the
neighborhood of 10 / second.  It mostly happens around lunch which is of
course the busiest time for the proxy.  Anyone know exactly fires those
events?  Is it simply a failed connection when trying to forward a
request
or what?  Do I need to tune the ip stack on the box maybe?  Nobody's
griping
about degraded services (thank God), but I want to fix the problem so
that
it doesn't escalate into end-user-griping.

-Shawn

-----
Shawn R. Quillman
Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT7
38000 Hills Tech Drive
Farmington Hills, MI  48331
(248) 553-1164 (P)     (248) 848-2855 (F)
shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx


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