Keep in mind that with any NLB solution you have to manually configure the two standalone ISA since one of the best feature of an array is the possibility to keep adminstrating easy... Why don't do a dcpromo on both isa machines and let them both be the active directory? -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alex S. Pereira [mailto:9047.alexsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Gesendet: Freitag, 20. Juni 2003 15:22 An: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Cc: Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: [isalist] RE: Array in an Windows NT 4.0 Domain http://www.ISAserver.org I wanna that my users use both servers, like if it is just one server, if one server go down the users will not lost the access to internet, I know that the array is the best solution, but I don't have active directory and I will not implement one just to solve this problem, I guess that if I use NLB the users can access the ISA Server via one IP that will be used for both servers, do you know if work ? Thanks, Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT1.1) * <mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] <mailto:isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: [isalist] RE: Array in an Windows NT 4.0 Domain http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.ISAserver.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. _____ That's not quite the same as an ISA array. Arrays provide centralized storage of ISA configuration (in AD, thus the requirement) and a distributed cache. What exactly is it that you are trying to achieve? -Shawn ----- Shawn R. Quillman Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT1.1 38000 Hills Tech Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331 (248) 553-1164 (P) (248) 848-2855 (F) shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Alex S. Pereira [mailto:9047.alexsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:44 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Cc: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT1.1) * Subject: [isalist] RE: Array in an Windows NT 4.0 Domain http://www.ISAserver.org Ok, it's mean that if I don't have an Active Drectory I can not use an Array, is there other option ? If I use NLB with the internal Interface of the ISA Servers ? Thanks, Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CIT1.1) <mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> * To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] <mailto:isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: [isalist] RE: Array in an Windows NT 4.0 Domain http://www.ISAserver.org <http://www.ISAserver.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. _____ Hi Alex, You must have Active Directory to configure ISA as an array. -Shawn ----- Shawn R. Quillman Robert Bosch Corporation RBNA/CIT1.1 38000 Hills Tech Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48331 (248) 553-1164 (P) (248) 848-2855 (F) shawn.quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Alex S. Pereira [mailto:9047.alexsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:27 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Array in an Windows NT 4.0 Domain http://www.ISAserver.org Hi, I have an Windows NT 4.0 Domain in my network with an ISA Server , I need install a second ISA Server and I wanna that both servers work together, I don't have an Active Directory, may I use an array ? How can I configure an array without an Active Directory ? 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