RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

  • From: "Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) *" <Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:09:11 -0500

Still alive and well in alt.government.conspiracy.paranoid :) 


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Shawn R. Quillman
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:11 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

http://www.ISAserver.org

Ha!

I have to wonder how many folks on this list ever encountered
"Tempest-certified computers"...?

If it means nothing to you, don't worry.  It's a dead idea and
good-freakin'-riddance...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 08:52
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Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

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Hey Jim,

Psychotronic influence is much more likely than falling pieces from
passing airplanes. The AFDB is absolutely required if you live anywhere
near a city and it would be nuts not to wear it on plane flights, since
you don't have the atmospheric protection you might otherwise have.

You should also wrap your RAM in an AFDB to protect from hackers too.
 
;-P

Tom
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Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:45 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

http://www.ISAserver.org

Of course not; but you shouldn't forget your foil hat.
http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 07:36
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Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi Mithu,

Its possible that a piece of a jet aircraft will break off and fall on
your head while you're sleeping. Does that mean you wear a helmet to
bed? 


Tom
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Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls


-----Original Message-----
From: mithu@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mithu@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:35 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000

http://www.ISAserver.org

If a LAN machine got compromised - and, there was a worm/virus that
targets ISA Server 2000 on the inside in some way - is it not possible
to
get a virus with some unknown w2k vulnerability?

System resources are not an issue for me - I'm just more concerned about
knowing that it does not cause any system problems on ISA 2000. If it
has
no affect on the firewall functions then it would be nice to at least
know
you are looking out for viruses. Of course, I'd like to hear your expert
opinions on my reasoning....

> Hello
> No worm can come in since there is no allow or publish rule created
from
> outside to ISA itself. It just passes packets. As an example if there
is a
> new virus going to web servers running IIS, ISA machine just passes it
> unless you run any server on ISA and then you need an army
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mithu@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mithu@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: November 18, 2004 11:16 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > What about a worm that comes thru some unexpected future w2k
> > vulnerability?
> > 
> > Has anyone put Symantec AntiVirus Corporate for the server's own
> > protection in a ISA 2000 box?
> > 
> > 
> > > I see no reason to put AV on the firewall. How would it ever
become
> > > infected? You never run the browser, you never run e-mail clients,
you
> > > never run any client software or server software other than the
ISA
> > > firewall software on it. You don't allow connections from hosts to
any
> > > vulnerable ports either. So, the only function of AV software is
to
> > > introduce perforamnce reduction and potential for increased attack
> > > surface.=20
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > www.isaserver.org/shinder
> > > Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew English [mailto:andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:32 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > I can't see why not? I use Trend Server Protect on my ISA 2004
box.=20
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mithu@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mithu@xxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 8:27 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: AntiVirus & ISA 2000
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > To protect the server itself. Is Symantec AntiVirus Corp 9.0 an
> > > acceptable
> > > solution to run on the machine? Will it interfere with the ISA in
> > > anyway?
> > >
> > > > Please clarify what you are asking about.
> > > >=20
> > > > Are you asking about AV to scan the data flowing through ISA, or
are
> > > you
> > > > asking about AV to protect the server itself?
> > > >=20
> > > > John Tolmachoff
> > > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > > > eServices For You
> > > >=20
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: mithu@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mithu@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:29 AM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] AntiVirus & ISA 2000
> > > > >=20
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >=20
> > > > > On this site it says don't install any applications on an ISA
2000
> > > box -
> > > > > now, does that include AntiVirus software?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > If AV software is allowable - what do you recommend? Is Norton
> > > AntiVirus
> > > > > Corporate 9.0 a workable solution on an ISA 2000 box?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >=20
> > 
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