Alan, I've been a mouse jockey now for a little under eighteen years. Almost all of that has been manual routing, eight hours a day, seven days a week etc. A few years after I started, I felt like I was starting to get carpal tunnel. I knew I had to avoid it, so I figured out that my technique was not ergonomically correct! I got a wrist rest, set up my desk and chair to keep my forearm at the correct height to not have a bend in my wrist etc. The feeling of carpal tunnel started to go away and has never come back! Sometimes during especially intense work (routing like a mad dog!), my wrist starts to hurt a bit, so I just stop and move it around and massage it. I really think the mouse you use will make a difference, since we spend many hours a day using it. I have come to the conclusion that the Logitech hand specific mouse is the best for lots of mouse work. I use a right handed MX510 and it keeps the hand in the correct position and is very easy to grab and has great button/click action. Gook luck either way, staying with the trackball or back to a mouse, hope the carpal tunnel goes away! Regards, Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of alan fisch Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:36 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] mouse challenge! I've recently moved to a Logitech Marble Trackball mouse due to carpal tunnel. I'd like to know if anyone has a good example of a dedicated lefthand trackball mouse. I find trackball mice helps greatly with the carpal tunnel. Any other thoughts on mice to assist with carpal tunnel would be welcome. And no I don't use strokes in Allegro. Had to mention Allegro once in the e-mail ...:-) Alan george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: It is damn near impossible to use strokes with a trackball :) -- George Patrick >Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, Engineering Design Services P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bolman, Shirley H Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:21 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: mouse change w/15.5 In a previous life, I was doing schematic entry in Mentor and learned the "strokes"! Wow they were just great. Once you get used to them they are very powerful. When I started up on Cadence I found they had only a few strokes and most of them didn't work well so I went back to using function keys for the basic things. Of course it doesn't help much that Cadence follows the Select a process then select the thing the process is to affect. Whereas Mentor you select the item, then tell it what process you want to use. One of these days I will train my Cadence tool how to use strokes better but as a librarian there are only a few basic things I need now. Shirley in Oregon _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lthemanz Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:17 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: mouse change w/15.5 I've seen those strokes performed by Mentor users, and it works really fast. Some of them look like ninja's just stroking their mouse. ----- Original Message ---- From: David Greig <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 1:49:53 AM Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: mouse change w/15.5 Hope xyz@xxxxxxxxxx reads my posting when they get back into their office! Best Regards David Greig ______________________________ GigaDyne Ltd Buchan House Carnegie Campus Dunfermline KY11 8PL United Kingdom t: +44 (0)1383 624 975 www.gigadyne.co.uk <http://www.gigadyne.co.uk/> ______________________________ _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene Carman Sent: 17 February 2006 17:15 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: mouse change w/15.5 LOL... the Mentor people think "strokes" are the best thing since sliced bread. Give me configurable keyboard control anyday. -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David Greig Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:24 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: mouse change w/15.5 env variable, "unset no_dynamic_zoom" why on earth it's even an option? about as much use as strokes. Best Regards David Greig ______________________________ GigaDyne Ltd Buchan House Carnegie Campus Dunfermline KY11 8PL United Kingdom t: +44 (0)1383 624 975 www.gigadyne.co.uk <http://www.gigadyne.co.uk/> ______________________________ _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary MacIndoe Sent: 16 February 2006 21:34 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] mouse change w/15.5 Hey guys, I'm not sure what's going on with my mouse, or if it's even a result of upgrading to 15.5. Before, while on 15.2, clicking the middle mouse button would continue zooming in if I had just zoomed in. If I had just zoomed out, the middle mouse button would continue the zooming out when clicked. Now, clicking the middle mouse button zooms me in, whether I just zoomed out or in. Not a big deal, but anyone have any clues as to where this is set? Thanks! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado -- Virus scanned by Lumison. -- Virus scanned by Lumison. <//BLOCKQUOTE> _____ The best gets better. See why everyone is raving about the <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40705/*http:/mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=c a> All-new Yahoo! Mail.