Yeah, I agree with the group. I think FR4 is fine... but I haven't gone up as high as Richard. Jonathan Friedman, GSR Networked Embedded Systems Laboratory (NESL) University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) -----Original Message----- From: Weinberg, Richard (Richard) [mailto:rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:39 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: high speed board material. I've done 2.5 Gb/S on Fr4 many times. Richard Weinberg Agere Systems 207-846-4539 -----Original Message----- From: sjcharles@xxxxxxx [mailto:sjcharles@xxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:37 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: high speed board material. speed 1 ghz, 8 ly, 1/2 oz, rate edge approx 9n, 5/5 width and spacing maybe 4 for necking. two or threes pair controlled Z. If Fr4 will do the job then i that would be fine. thanks > > From: "Schwartz, Jerome" <jschwa01@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 2005/02/18 Fri AM 10:49:28 EST > To: "'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: high speed board material. > > Sam, > > There are many variables associated with picking a material: > > 1. Dielectric Constant. > 2. Frequency. > 3. Edge rate. > 4. Layer count. > 5. Stackup. > 6. Copper weight. > 7. Impedance. Microstrip or stripline high speed signals. > 8. Line width. > 9. Rework. > 10. Thermal. > > Do you know some of these? If so, I can suggest materials. > > Regards, > Jerry Schwartz, CID+ > IPC Advanced Certified Designer > "May The Schwartz Be With You." > > Designer 3 > Harris Corporation GCSD Voice (321)-727-5474 > P.O. Box 37, MS 1/3232 Pager (321)-690-9797 > Melbourne, FL 32902-0037 > mailto:Jerome.Schwartz@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.harris.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sjcharles@xxxxxxx [mailto:sjcharles@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:42 AM > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] high speed board material. > > > Group: > We will be doing a PCI card which will have high speed digital signals. Which > type of board material (fr4,rogers...) would be ideal? > > TIA > Sam > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe/unsubscribe: > Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe > > To view the archives of this list please login at > //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum > or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ > > Problems or Questions: > Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Want to post a job listing ? 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