Oh sure, no problem using the funckey command or re-writing the keys for the left side of the keyboard. The real issue is that the "alt" layer is the target layer that determines the via that needs to be used. For instance I have two different vias in this design that transition from layer 1, based on the target layer: 1-6, 1-2. Leaving layer 2 for instance, I have a choice (again depending on the target layer) of vias: 1-6, 1-2, 2-5, so unless I establish the "alt" layer, placing a via is a crap shoot. Being able to select that alt layer on the fly is key! Being able to select the active layer is actually pretty minor... (simply select a guide)... Hence my strong desire to be able to use funckey to select that alt layer. I cannot find any set of commmands to allow that... other than mouse clicking into the window.... an operation that tends to be rather annoying, especially if one has an active route on the cursor and bubble mode on. (the design goes nuts trying to respond to the cursor blasting across the routed workspace to click in that window). -----Original Message----- From: MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:52 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: funckey question... alt_subclass Gene, You can consider editing your function key commands to take advantage of the left side of the keyboard, for example; Current commands in your env: funckey + subclass -+ funckey - subclass -- Proposed commands: funckey q subclass -+ funckey a subclass -- You can also use the space bar to either increment or decrement with the command: funckey subclass -+ (this increments the active subclass) As for incrementing the alternate subclass, I have written up a PCR on your behalf. We will have an increment/decrement command for the alt subclass in the next release (15.5) PCR 757771 Ed Ed Hickey Allegro Technical Marketing Manager Cadence Design Systems Chelmsford, MA 01824 978-262-6545 -----Original Message----- From: Gene Carman [mailto:gcarman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:59 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] funckey question... alt_subclass I do a lot of hand routing... I want to be able to change my target layer... the "alt" layer, faster than I currently can. (point to new layer with mouse is rather lame) I can increment the active layer using the + and minus keys (poorly placed BTW for a right hand mouse user) But I cannot figure out how to increment the alt layer. The scripts I captured show the alt layer toggle as "FORM mini alt_subclass LAYER_4" (for a change to layer_4) but that does not work when programmed as a funckey command. Some folks had elaborate layer commands... I am just looking for a simple toggle for the alt layer. Just let me drive it at least in one direction. Any ideas? ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------