You're welcome. One more thing: Ensure that the two nets being shorted always have assigned net names, not just machine assigned net names (i.e. not NXXXXXXX). If the DE re-netlists, the original machine assigned net name may change. Regards, Gary MacIndoe Senior PCB Design Engineer EbD R&D Hardware Surgical Solutions Group Covidien 5920 Longbow Drive Boulder, CO 80301 303.476.7458 www.covidien.com From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrow, Dennis Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:23 AM To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Shorting two or more nets together Perfect! Thanks Gerry! Thanks Gary! From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerry Meier Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:41 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Shorting two or more nets together Gary, We always send ODB++ too! It should be there. I typically have a note on the fab to see the ipc-netlist for short information. Gerry Gerry Meier, Sr. PCB Designer Freedom CAD Services. Inc Voice: (256) 715-1424 Email:gerry.meier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: rgmeier3 visit us at http://www.freedomcad.com<http://www.freedomcad.com/> P Think Green only print as needed. From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:03 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Shorting two or more nets together Thanks for the PDF Gerry! So it will be in the IPC-356 netlist file, but will they be sure that it's intentional? Also, we switched to only providing ODB++ output. What about that case? Regards, Gary MacIndoe Senior PCB Design Engineer EbD R&D Hardware Surgical Solutions Group Covidien 5920 Longbow Drive Boulder, CO 80301 303.476.7458 www.covidien.com<http://www.covidien.com> From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of Gerry Meier Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:00 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Shorting two or more nets together The net short information (XY's)will be in the IPC-356 netlist comment section "Unless" to attach it to a shape. I do not attach it to shapes. Gerry Meier, Sr. PCB Designer Freedom CAD Services. Inc Voice: (256) 715-1424 Email:gerry.meier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype: rgmeier3 visit us at http://www.freedomcad.com<http://www.freedomcad.com/> P Think Green only print as needed. From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:47 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Shorting two or more nets together Hey Dennis, You can put the "Net_Short" property on a pin, via or shape with the Value field as "[net1]:[net2]" (I think three nets would be "[net1]:[net2]:[net3]"). I can't remember for sure, but you may want to run a Database Check afterwards. Also, I would suggest including a Net Short document along with the Fab files in order to avoid the inevitable phone call/e-mail. As far as the schematic is concerned, I'm not sure. But I would think at least a Note would be in order. Regards, Gary MacIndoe Senior PCB Design Engineer EbD R&D Hardware Surgical Solutions Group Covidien Boulder, CO 80301 From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf Of Carrow, Dennis Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:27 PM To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Shorting two or more nets together Hi Everyone, Can I ask how to properly short two or more grounds at a common point using Cadence Allegro 16.X and Design Entry HDL? Thanks for any and all ideas! DC