Hi Oleg, > I think during design you do need pads on all layers in order to > have proper > DRC. There is no design requirement to have pads on all layers, only when they are connected to a trace on a particular layer (outer layers aside). With the pad ring removed, the clearance is not trace to pad, but trace to drill instead. This gives a lot more routing room between vias. As I mentioned, I do this very thing routinely, but with custom pad stacks. And, as you note, this is routinely done during fabrication as well, so why can't the tool do it during design (or can it, and that's my question)? Regards, Austin ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------