[PCB_FORUM] Re: Prop Delay question....

  • From: "Gene Carman" <gcarman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 11:22:57 -0800

Actually it was list element < NET >, but my list element < NET > reports do 
not contain this:

Properties attached to net
>     CLASS             = CPU_CLK
>     NET_SPACING_TYPE  = CLOCK
>     NO_GLOSS
>     MANUAL_ROUTES
>     PROPAGATION_DELAY = AD:AR:2000 MIL:2500 MIL

Especially the last one  "PROPAGATION_DELAY"

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin McCowan [mailto:kmccowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:41 AM
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Prop Delay question....


They were generated using list element (it says
so at the top of the listing).
You seem to want something other than that.
Have you checked reports? I have specctra running
right now and cannot do it myself.

Kevin McCowan
Sr. PCB Designer
TSI Telsys

Gene Carman wrote:
> Is there a simple way to get a prop delay report in 15.2...  I have an 
> engineer that wants the capacitance and prop delay on address and data lines 
> and frankly I have not read the manual on this section.  
> 
> How was the report below generated.  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Seymour [mailto:deseymour-pcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:58 PM
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Prop Delay not seeing all the net
> 
> 
> 15.2
> 
> Anyone know why a DRC is generated when the entire
> net length is correct? 
> 
> The net length is supposed to be between 2000 and 2500 mils.  
> 
> Probing the net gives --->Total Etch Length:      2280.31 MIL. 
> Very good.
> 
> When the DRC is probed, only a portion of the net is reported.
> Actual value:     1032.65 MIL
> Very Bad.
> 
> What up with that?
> 
> I did check the box for in the user setup for pre 11.x checking.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> dave
> 
> LISTING: 1 element(s)
> 
>               < NET >
> 
>   Net Name:       CPU_CLK6
> 
>   Via Count:              3
>   Total Etch Length:      2280.31 MIL
>   Total Manhattan Length: 2257.7 MIL
>   Percent Manhattan:      101.00%
> 
>   Pin                     Type      SigNoise Model
>   ---                     ----      --------------
>   R93.2                   BI        CDSDefaultIO
>   J5.A13                  BI        CDSDefaultIO
>   U4.27                   IN        CDSDefaultInput
> 
>   No connections remaining
> 
>   Properties attached to net
>     CLASS             = CPU_CLK
>     NET_SPACING_TYPE  = CLOCK
>     NO_GLOSS
>     MANUAL_ROUTES
>     PROPAGATION_DELAY = AD:AR:2000 MIL:2500 MIL
> 
> 
> 
> LISTING: 1 element(s)
> 
>            < DRC ERROR >
> 
>   Class:           DRC ERROR CLASS
>   Subclass:        ALL
>   Origin xy:       (2083.30 -790.00)
> 
>   CONSTRAINT:      Propagation Delay
>   CONSTRAINT SET:  PROPAGATION_DELAY
>   CONSTRAINT TYPE: ATTRIBUTE
>     Constraint value: AD:AR:2000 MIL:2500 MIL
>     Actual value:     1032.65 MIL
> 
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