Hi Mark, Why do the Assembly house need .asc file??????? For Assembly purpose, you need the BOM and XY_placement file (which is ASCII format) and also the gerbers file for your Pastemask layer for making the Solder paste Utensil. Nearest Allegro equivalent (content-wise) to PADS .asc file is the IPC356 netlist. CircuitCAM from aegis is Assembly program which prints outs Color codes for assembly line and also generates assembly run programs for Fuji etc assembly Machines. This software accepts gerbers or brd file or the .asc file and BOM and XY_Placement file (if using gerbers otherwise the XY data is embedded into the layout file). Regards, Farooq Bhatti Design/Engineering Department Whizz Systems Inc. 408-980-0400x105 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Unruh [mailto:MarkUnruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:20 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Power-PCB .asc assembly file I have an assembly house asking for a Power-PCB .asc file. (!PADS-POWERPCB-V4.0-BASIC! DESIGN DATABASE ASCII FILE 1.0) Is there a way to get this information out of Allegro? Script? Conversion? CAM program? Thanks in advance, Mark Unruh Airgo Networks