Hey Mark, I also create my assembly drawing (usually just one, most of our designs fit both Top and Bottom in one drawing) with Export/Import IPF. Whether it's one sheet or two, when you Export -> IPF then Import -> IPF (to scale and/or mirror), text is retained as text, so I'm not sure why you are having trouble with your bottom assembly drawing (I use Ref Des/Silkscreen_Top/Bottom for the designators in my assembly drawing(s) since they are already moved off of the pad, rotated etc., but I don't think it would make a difference if you use Ref Des/Assembly_Top/Bottom). I can't imagine why you can create a searchable PDF of the top drawing but not the bottom. The only difference should be that you mirror the bottom when doing an Import -> IPF. Good luck! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Salberg Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:41 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerber viewer One more question Gary, How do you create the bottom side assembly drawing? We usually mirror a .plt file of the bottom components, then add the border form etc... Now the text from the .plt file is not searchable when output to a pdf. Any suggestions? thanks, Mark Gary MacIndoe wrote: Mark, Garrett, I also think creating the searchable PDF is the way to go. I think the Courier font is the best to use, and I experimented with several fonts. I've attached a freebee, it's a PDF of a section in my Word procedures on creating a searchable PDF. You will probably want to change the subclasses you view on. Of course you will need Adobe Acrobat Writer (Distiller?), not just a reader to create a searchable PDF. Happy component searching! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices Longmont, Colorado _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Salberg Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:20 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerber viewer Dave, Where do you select the "non-vectorized text" option in Allegro. We are using V-15.1 and I can only find a "vectorized" selection box in Plot set-up. Which is not enabled. I also looked in Setup/User Preference/Plot. Thanks, Mark Dave Mattice wrote: We now select the non-vectorized text option when plotting pdf's I found the font: Arial, height 100% width 75% is pretty close to allegro font size. This makes the reference designators searchable on the pdf assembly drawings. Just another idea that all of you probably know about.. -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Isaacson, Lynn Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 12:42 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gerber viewer Why not give them the .brd file and a copy of the Cadence Allegro Free Viewer? _____ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Garrett Gilbertson Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:17 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Gerber viewer Using 15.2 Our assembly person is having difficulty finding parts on the more dense boards. Can I get your input on a gerber viewer tool that is free and easy to use for an assembly person to find parts on the board? Garrett Gilbertson ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ____________________________________________________________________________ _ ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ____________________________________________________________________________ _ ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ____________________________________________________________________________ _ ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ____________________________________________________________________________ _