[PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

  • From: "Davies, Charles \(cdavies\)" <cdavies@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:40:38 -0400

The GenCAD interface is a product originally created by OHIO DA and now
offered/licensed/supported by PTC.  It is written in Skill.  PTC should
be able to provide pricing and others details. 

Regards,
Charlie
321.727.6235

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kulik, Andreas
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:08 PM
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As far as I know, HARMONY is what it is and was. I will contact R&D and
find out.

Andreas
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schwartz,
Jerome
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:15 AM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

 Mike,

        They were bought by PTC, the owners of ProE.


Jerry


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gnieski_mike@xxxxxxx
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        Ive been trying to locate the Ohio-Harmony web page with
        no luck. I'd like to find out any of the latest features
        that they've added, and local contacts. It used to be John Lane.

        Any help?

        Mike
 

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Munoz, Juan
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:29 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

We use a 3rd party software called HARMONY that was developed by Ohio
Design Automation which has since been bought out by PTC.  Below is a
link from the Cadence website

http://www.cadence.com/partners/connections/member.aspx?member=member_PT
C 


Juan M. Munoz
CAD Support Group
Tyco Electronics
Power Systems
3000 Skyline Dr.
Mesquite, TX  75149
972-284-3019
juan.munoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Rasmusen
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:03 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

Dave,

Actually, one of our vendors is asking us to provide the GenCAD output
as well.  They pointed us to Aegis (www.aiscorp.com) to download the
scripts.  

Thanks,
 
 
Dale Rasmusen
Senior CAD Engineer
TEKNOVUS
(707) 665-0400 ext 133
(707) 665-0491 fax


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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:10 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

George,

Interesting .... I currently working for the company who bought Mitron
!!!

Mitron sold the rights to Gencad long ago to another company, who has
since been bought by someone else ....

Guess we may need to consider 1 of the commercial options, will suggest
ODB++ if we need to spend money anyways.

Dave Schaefer
dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx
 

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george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:44 PM
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Gencad Output from Allegro

Dave:

RSI used to have an extract command file that could produce GenCAD
output, but that was back in the mid-90's, it was named something like
"valgcad" (I assume for "Valid-GenCAD", it's really THAT old).  The
software is copyrighted, and not even listed on their web site any more
(http://www.rsi-inc.com), and since Mentor took them over I don't know
how good their relationship with Cadence is :)  There _are_ options
listed in their CAMCAD product for reading Allegro and writing GenCAD,
but that's not free either...

Seems to me I remember that you could get it from Mitron, but I don't
remember who bought them out, and their old web address is parked, for
sale, and is now a pop-up paradise.

Trouble is you are dealing with an ancient format that has mostly been
abandoned in favor of newer ones.  Cadence saw no reason to produce an
internal export program when they bought Valid, especially when RSI was
selling one.  Mentor sees no reason to help their competition when they
buy RSI, and it looks like they have put all their eggs in one basket,
CAMCAD. 

Unfortunate fact of life in this biz, there are so many mergers,
buyouts, and fire sales that if you want older stuff you may be stuck.

Sorry for the lack of help, maybe my ramblings will jog somebody's
memory :)

--
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
* 503-627-5272 (voice)     * 503-627-5587 (fax)
http://www.tektronix.com    http://www.pcb-designer.com
 
"Off-Grid and Proud of it!"


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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:13
To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Gencad Output from Allegro


We've been using Gencad format data for several of our manufacturing
activities with our current toolset.  We are now transitioning to
Allegro, and I cannot find Gencad listed as an available output format.

- Is Gencad output available directly from Allegro ?
- Is there a public Allegro to Gencad conversion available (skill,
extract, etc), and how do I obtain ?
- Are there any recommendations for other suitable data formats (ODB++,
etc) ?

Thanks,
Dave

Dave Schaefer
dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx
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