Bob, No, Allegro does not have a demo package and probably never will. Turning a quick answer into a short story; However, I was waiting for a position to open up to use Allegro for the first time. After I asked my then future employer a couple of times for a demo to get a jump start on Allegro, they had to bother their rep a couple of times to get Cadence to provide me with a temporary license. Since this is not common practice and the license was given to me based on the employer's reputation, my former employer and I had to talk with the rep and explain what our purpose was, I believe more than once. Doing this helped me out quite a lot while impressing the employer with my quick learning abilities. Also, the rep proved to be a continuous source of great help. Sorry, I cannot remember his name. I believe that an independent designer has very little chance of having the above happen. Also I have never heard of it happening to anyone else, but it would not hurt to talk to a Cadence rep about your situation. Who knows? You might find there is an option that you can live with. Cheers! Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob McCreight To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Demo or Training Package Does anyone know if an independent designer can get a hold of a FREE demo package of Allegro for the purposes of training? Thanks!