[PCB_FORUM] Re: DGND/AGND merge point

  • From: "Gerry Meier" <gerry.meier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:32:20 -0700

Yves

Also if you use the net_short property in Allegro V15.2 it will include 
information about the short in the comment section of the IPC-356A netlist. So 
even if your sending valor data to your vendor export and send the ipc netlist 
from Allegro. You may have to play with which net is first:second to get it to 
work property.

The syntax of the NET_SHORT property is:

<net 1>:<net 2>:.... 
For example:

NET_SHORT = GND1 : GND2 : GND3 



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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Yves Cantraine
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Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DGND/AGND merge point

You can short two dynamic shapes together by using the DYN_DO_NOT_VOID property 
on the shape with the higher priority.

Just have them overlap at somne point and apply the property.

Yves

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Van: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]Namens Ritter, Alan
Verzonden: Thursday, 21 April, 2005 15:35
Aan: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: [PCB_FORUM] Re: DGND/AGND merge point


This is one of the classic problems...our local workaround is fine if you use 
negative plane layers, and goes something like this:

The negative plane consists of two classes, one etch (call it subclass
"GND") and one anti-etch (call it "GNDSEP").

On the etch, create your shapes for GND and AGND, attach them to the respective 
nets and let Allegro generate the thermal reliefs, antipads, etc., as 
appropriate.  Leave a 25-mil or so gap between the GND and AGND shapes.

On the anti-etch, lay down a 25-mil (or narrower if you prefer) LINE (not
CLINE) that traces the boundary between your GND and AGND shapes.  We also add 
a 50-mil line just inside the perimeter of the board, as well, to keep copper 
planes away from the cut edge.

Now, for the trick:  LEAVE A GAP in the AGND/DGND separation line.  Pick the 
location per your customer's requirements (usually either at the A/D converter, 
or at the power connector).  When you create artwork for the plane layer, make 
sure that you have it set up as a NEGATIVE layer.  Turn on the pads and shapes 
for the etch class, and the lines for the anti-etch class.  Click the "suppress 
shape fill" option and generate artwork.  This will generate the antipads and 
thermals for pins/vias and the separation barriers.

We have used this workaround (and it IS a workaround) for quite a while.  It 
keeps good track of AGND/DGND connectivity but does NOT guarantee that the 
separation/junction between the two is correct...you, as designer, have to 
verify that by viewing the Gerber files out the far end of the process.

Yes, it's a kludge...but it works...

/s/jar (alan.ritter@xxxxxxxxxx)
        http://www.mtritter.org

Quite often, a board contains both AGND and DGND and the customer asks us 
to connect them together on a single point on the board, like GND pin of a 
connector.
 
Does anybody know how to do it in Allegro without generating DRCs errors?





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