Thanks for the reply George. So Tek isn't using round pads for 0402s and 0603s? The round pad thing could just be a legacy thing. Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:20 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: 0402, 0603 round pads 15 years ago when I was setting up the SMD libraries at a previous employer, we were told by a consultant that wave soldered joints were better if the pads had a radius instead of a "sharp" corner. This was supposedly because the meniscus of the molten solder conformed more easily to a curved surface than a corner. I guess you could consider a round pad to be "fully radiused" :) YMMV. I don't recall if it helped the yields or not. -- George Patrick Tektronix, Inc. Central Engineering, EDS Applications Support P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512 Beaverton, OR 97077-0001 * 503-627-5272 (voice) * 503-627-5587 (fax) http://www.tektronix.com <http://www.tektronix.com/> http://www.pcb-designer.com <http://www.pcb-designer.com/> "Off-Grid and Proud of it!" -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Macindoe, Gary Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 15:05 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] 0402, 0603 round pads Hey guys, Man has it been quiet (or am I not receiving forum e-mails?). So, I've been looking at some designs from a couple of other groups within the company. Both of them have their 0402 and 0603 foot prints with round pads (0402 = rd25). Is anyone out there also using round pads for 0402s and 0603s, and why? They have oval pads for their 0805s and 1206s also. I still have square or rectangular for all of the above. Could it have something to do with lead free? Thanks and Happy New Year! Gary Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Longmont, Colorado amd.com gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx