[icon-discuss] Re: reset question and console question
- From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:55:13 -0400
yer welcome and if I made an error, I'm sure it'll be corrected.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Shaker" <jimshaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:44 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: reset question and console question
David,
Thank you very much for your explanation of my questions. It was complete
and I appreciated it very much.
Thank You
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: reset question and console question
> Reboot is kind of like rebooting your pc, reset is a bit harsher and is
> kind
> of like control alt delete used to be which would force a restart when
> something was locked up but different in that it also requires a time
> reset.
>
> reflash is a rollback to the currently factory flashed set of the unit in
> this case, I think it would be 1.1 even though you may have received your
> unit before 1.1 because the reflash now uses the extra partition to
> restore
> the firmware.
>
> The reason to avoid taking out the batery if at all possible is that reset
> and reflash and restart all are controlled meltdowns and yanking out the
> battery is kind of like pulling the plug on a pc in that if the hd is
> doing
> something, you could foul it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Shaker" <jimshaker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:12 AM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: reset question and console question
>
>
> Perhaps it has been discussed before; but will someone please explain the
> effect the various means of going to square one on the Braille Plus?
> What is the difference a reset, a quick reset,a reboot, and a reflash?
> Why should one hesitate to remove the battery. In so many of the
> electronic
> gadgets I have removing the battery is a quick fix.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:58 PM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: reset question and console question
>
>
>> The consol should be touched if you know linux shell commands.
>>
>> You should never have to take the battery out, but just in case you do,
>> make sure that the icon is unplugged.
>> Try a reboot before a reset by pressing star, pound, and program one.
>> Then
>> try a short reset, meaning that you press it down quickly. If that
>> doesn't
>> work, hold reset for about five seconds and let go. If that fails, back
>> up
>> all your settings and attempt a reflash.
>> Thanks
>> Nimer J
>>
>>
>> Sharon wrote:
>>> What is the console, and is it something we shouldn't touch?
>>>
>>> What are the various reset commands for the Braille Plus in order of
>>> which
>>> ones should be tried first? reset with a stylus, taking out the battery,
>>> then what?
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jenny Axler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 2:52 PM
>>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: More about hard drive issue
>>>
>>>
>>> This is console related stuff and probably shouldn't have been allowed
>>> here.
>>> the console is not supported by LevelStar or APH, so these commands are
>>> not
>>> anything you should know about if you're not using the console to
>>> operate
>>> your unit. For those of you who use the console, this is the exact
>>> reason
>>> we do not allow discussion of it on this list--it causes confusion for
>>> those
>>> who are just using the Icon/Braille + software. Please try to address
>>> these
>>> things on the tech list, or if someone has a question regarding the
>>> console
>>> that you think you want to answer, please address it off list.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe Giovanelli" <joegio1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: More about hard drive issue
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I don't know anything about the commands mentioned in these posts. I
>>> think,
>>> therefore, that these
>>> essoteric commands and the meaning of some obscuffe folders we have
>>> should
>>> be explained thoroughly in
>>> the manual.
>>>
>>> I'm truly amazed at how many of you have figured out some of these
>>> arcane
>>> items!
>>>
>>> Joe G.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 07:55:13 -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Thanks for the suggestion... It appears that the Icon now uses the
>>>> Automounter for some reason. Also, when I try to umount /media/hdd, it
>>>> claims there's no such directory even when there is. Baffling piece of
>>>> technology.
>>>> All I can say is I hope I don't have to turn this thing back in for
>>>> repair aain.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Zack.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Terrence van Ettinger" <terrence@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 1970 1:14 AM
>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: More about hard drive issue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Zack,
>>>> I had something similar with my Icon a while back. I was able to fix it
>>>> by
>>>> remounting my
>>>> hard drive from the console. I believe the process went something like:
>>>> umount /media/hdd
>>>> mount /media/hdd -o rw
>>>>
>>>> I may have needed to put the /dev location in before "/media/hdd", but
>>>> I
>>>> can't recall for
>>>> sure. After you do this, if disc drive mode works, you might need to do
>>>> a
>>>> checkdisk command if
>>>> you're using Windows, or on the Icon itself use fsck, though I don't
>>>> completely
>>>> recall the exact fsck syntax for this.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Terrence
>>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:53:46 -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Funny as this may sound, I wish this had broken on Thursday. My class
>>>>> load is lightest on Thursday and I'd be able to call the east coast.
>>>>> Tomorrow, by contrast, I'm pretty busy up until APH and those folks
>>>>> are
>>>>> long
>>>>> gone.
>>>>> I should probably wait, but part of me is curious what solutions you
>>>>> can
>>>>> think of. Ahh, well.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Zack.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: More about hard drive issue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Zack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can think of couple of solutions. But, I would highly recommend
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> wait till the morning and give APH a call first thing to see whther
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> walk you through exercises to determine what's exactly wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zachary Kline
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:51 PM
>>>>>> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [icon-discuss] More about hard drive issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> In my earlier message about this problem I should have said that I'd
>>>>>> done a reboot and reset, which failed to fix things.
>>>>>> I am a moderately experienced Linux user, and my suspicion is that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> hard drive is not mounting correctly.
>>>>>> I would hope I don't need to send this unit back in. I literally
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> got it back from APH today after a bout with hardware issues. I was
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> forward to using it.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Zack.
>>>>>>
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