[icon-discuss] Re: Question for all Braille,Plus ownersbbalgettingsome window-shopping time with th
- From: "Richard Turner" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:24:50 -0700
OK, I just discovered something about the case. My case had been covering
almost a quarter of the dot 6 key; which didn't actually effect my writing
that much. I just adjusted for it.
However, I just pulled extra hard on the little strap that covers the
mini-sd card slot and made sure it was pulled as far over as possible. Now,
the edge of the case just stops at the edge of the dot 6 key. If I press on
the case, it doesn't hit the key; but I doubt you could fit a piece of paper
between the case and the key. So, I wonder if others don't have that strap
pulled absolutely as far as it can go.
Richard
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ownersbbalgettingsome window-shopping time with th
Interesting, my case doesn't cover any part of the keys.
>>> chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx 04/24/08 11:27PM >>>
I don't use the case, because it is useless, and it covers some of the parts
of the keys. I was
one of those who have no problem brailleing on here. That's how I am typing
now.
Chase
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:46:18 -0400, Jeremiah Z. Rogers wrote:
>Hi again Rob and listers. Given the overwhelming number, and tone, of
>the
>responses to my message a couple weeks back about my experiencing
>difficulty, and relative dissatisfaction with, brailling on the
>Braille+, I
>spent some time attempting to better my results and/or determine where
>and
>what my problems inputting braille into the device really were.
>
>I have determined that my difficulties entering braille into the device
>stem
>largely from entering braille in the most mobile or non-traditional
>brailling situations, for example on my lap or while lying in bed. I
>find
>that I make lots of errors brailling when the device is on my lap that
>do
>not occur when the device is on a table or other flat surface. I can
>much
>more efficiently produce documents in the word processor, email, planner
>entries, and addresses when I'm able to use a table. I also took the
>device
>out of its case for several days and found that, though roughly the same
>difference in accuracy between data entered on hard and soft surfaces
>still
>existed, I felt like I had a better grasp of when characters might've
>been
>missed or improperly formed when the device was out of its case. As a
>result
>of my paying attention to some of these variables, I'd alter my original
>commentary to Rob by saying that I trust data entry on the device much
>less
>on softer surfaces than when brailling on hard ones, and would love to
>know
>from the list whether those of you who so emphatically asserted that you
>found braille input on the device to be satisfactory use your cases or
>primarily keep your devices naked.
>
>Hope this information is of some use to you Rob or others, and I'll of
>course be glad to read commentary spurred on by this post.
>
>Very gratefully,
>
>Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeremiah Z: Rogers [mailto:jeremiahzrogers@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16 10:27
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [icon-discuss] Question for all BraillePLUS owners;also
>getting
>some window-shopping time with the BraillePlus
>
>Hi Rob. I happily use the Braille+ for many personal and professional
>tasks,
>but I do find interacting with the device bothersome in several ways. I
>find
>the braille keys on the device to be a bit cramped, and I find that I
>make
>many more brailling errors with the device than I do when using any
>other
>device which allowed for braille input. I've struggled to put my finger
>on
>why that is, but I think it has to do with the device not accepting some
>keystrokes I attempt or the keys not always being pressed when I think
>they
>are. I feel it necessary to proofread much more carefully, and have to
>find
>and correct many more errors, using this device than others. I also
>find the
>telephone keypad on the device less comfortable than I'd hoped it would
>be
>in terms of the ability to push the buttons for a long period of time.
>The
>braille and telephone keypad keys, and for that matter all of the keys
>on
>the device, are noisy when pressed, and the telephone keys feel almost
>pointed after using them for ten minutes or so. I've never seen the
>Icon,
>and am incredibly curious about the physical differences between it and
>the
>Braille+. I hear that it is rounded on the bottom instead of the right
>angles on the bottom of the Braille+, so I wonder if it wouldn't feel
>better
>in a pocket than the
>Braille+. I'm also very curious about the feel, action, and noise of
>the
>Braille+telephone keys on
>the Icon. I'd like to try thumb braille on the Icon and use that as my
>comparrison to life with the
>Braille+. I use thumb braille on occasion with the Braille+, and it
>Braille+works fine but I think it
>would be much more desirable with a larger keypad perhaps like that
>found on
>the Icon. Hope all this babble is of some use, and I look forward to
>reading
>further discussion on the list.
>
>Jeremiah
>
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:48:59 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have seen some pictures of the Plus (I use a very powerful magnifier
>>on my MacBook) and the keyboard looks cramped. I've still got a 15 year
>>old Braille 'n Speak and I know what cramped keyboards are like because
>>of it. LOL I have not updated in 15 years, and I really am looking at a
>>new device, but i'm at...well...6 forks in the road. LOL. I'm looking
>>very closely at the Braille Plus as one of the devices I'd like to get.
>>So yeah is the keyboard on the BraillePlus cramped? Also, a good friend
>>of mine told me that where she is if she needs to look at something
>>such as the BraillePlus or Icon, that she can (in the sense of
>>equipment loans for review purposes). I'm from Nevada and I'm not sure
>>what we have here besides Easter Seals (which I heard on the news last
>>week will be closing due to funding issues I think) and the NFB and I'm
>>not sure if they have a tech lab or not. I know the local Blind Center
>>only has the BrailleNote and PACmate (last I looked). What I'd like to
>>do is to actually make a hard look at the device, but I can't make it
>>to the conventions this summer due to my need to take the Praxis for my
>>bachelors in special ed. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live
>>Messenger now.
>
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