[icon-discuss] Re: Question for all Braille,Plus ownersbbalgettingsome window-shopping time with th
- From: "denise avant" <dravant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 06:46:37 -0500
Hello,
Do you have a different case? When I received my braille plus, this was one
of the first things I noticed.
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Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question for all Braille,Plus
ownersbbalgettingsome window-shopping time with th
Interesting, my case doesn't cover any part of the keys.
>>> chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx 04/24/08 11:27PM >>>
I don't use the case, because it is useless, and it covers some of the parts
of the keys. I was
one of those who have no problem brailleing on here. That's how I am typing
now.
Chase
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:46:18 -0400, Jeremiah Z. Rogers wrote:
>Hi again Rob and listers. Given the overwhelming number, and tone, of
>the responses to my message a couple weeks back about my experiencing
>difficulty, and relative dissatisfaction with, brailling on the
>Braille+, I
>spent some time attempting to better my results and/or determine where
>and what my problems inputting braille into the device really were.
>
>I have determined that my difficulties entering braille into the device
>stem largely from entering braille in the most mobile or
>non-traditional brailling situations, for example on my lap or while
>lying in bed. I find that I make lots of errors brailling when the
>device is on my lap that do not occur when the device is on a table or
>other flat surface. I can much more efficiently produce documents in
>the word processor, email, planner entries, and addresses when I'm able
>to use a table. I also took the device out of its case for several days
>and found that, though roughly the same difference in accuracy between
>data entered on hard and soft surfaces still existed, I felt like I had
>a better grasp of when characters might've been missed or improperly
>formed when the device was out of its case. As a result of my paying
>attention to some of these variables, I'd alter my original commentary
>to Rob by saying that I trust data entry on the device much less on
>softer surfaces than when brailling on hard ones, and would love to
>know from the list whether those of you who so emphatically asserted
>that you found braille input on the device to be satisfactory use your
>cases or primarily keep your devices naked.
>
>Hope this information is of some use to you Rob or others, and I'll of
>course be glad to read commentary spurred on by this post.
>
>Very gratefully,
>
>Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeremiah Z: Rogers [mailto:jeremiahzrogers@xxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16 10:27
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [icon-discuss] Question for all BraillePLUS owners;also
>getting some window-shopping time with the BraillePlus
>
>Hi Rob. I happily use the Braille+ for many personal and professional
>tasks, but I do find interacting with the device bothersome in several
>ways. I find the braille keys on the device to be a bit cramped, and I
>find that I make many more brailling errors with the device than I do
>when using any other device which allowed for braille input. I've
>struggled to put my finger on why that is, but I think it has to do
>with the device not accepting some keystrokes I attempt or the keys not
>always being pressed when I think they are. I feel it necessary to
>proofread much more carefully, and have to find and correct many more
>errors, using this device than others. I also find the telephone keypad
>on the device less comfortable than I'd hoped it would be in terms of
>the ability to push the buttons for a long period of time.
>The
>braille and telephone keypad keys, and for that matter all of the keys
>on the device, are noisy when pressed, and the telephone keys feel
>almost pointed after using them for ten minutes or so. I've never seen
>the Icon, and am incredibly curious about the physical differences
>between it and the
>Braille+. I hear that it is rounded on the bottom instead of the right
>angles on the bottom of the Braille+, so I wonder if it wouldn't feel
>better in a pocket than the
>Braille+. I'm also very curious about the feel, action, and noise of
>the
>Braille+telephone keys on
>the Icon. I'd like to try thumb braille on the Icon and use that as my
>comparrison to life with the
>Braille+. I use thumb braille on occasion with the Braille+, and it
>Braille+works fine but I think it
>would be much more desirable with a larger keypad perhaps like that
>found on the Icon. Hope all this babble is of some use, and I look
>forward to reading further discussion on the list.
>
>Jeremiah
>
>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:48:59 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have seen some pictures of the Plus (I use a very powerful magnifier
>>on my MacBook) and the keyboard looks cramped. I've still got a 15
>>year old Braille 'n Speak and I know what cramped keyboards are like
>>because of it. LOL I have not updated in 15 years, and I really am
>>looking at a new device, but i'm at...well...6 forks in the road. LOL.
>>I'm looking very closely at the Braille Plus as one of the devices I'd
like to get.
>>So yeah is the keyboard on the BraillePlus cramped? Also, a good
>>friend of mine told me that where she is if she needs to look at
>>something such as the BraillePlus or Icon, that she can (in the sense
>>of equipment loans for review purposes). I'm from Nevada and I'm not
>>sure what we have here besides Easter Seals (which I heard on the news
>>last week will be closing due to funding issues I think) and the NFB
>>and I'm not sure if they have a tech lab or not. I know the local
>>Blind Center only has the BrailleNote and PACmate (last I looked).
>>What I'd like to do is to actually make a hard look at the device, but
>>I can't make it to the conventions this summer due to my need to take
>>the Praxis for my bachelors in special ed. Get in touch in an instant.
>>Get Windows Live Messenger now.
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