[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
- From: "David Tanner" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:09:19 -0500
I don't know what they did or how they did it. All I know is that
Fred told me that the adjusted the keys and tightened them up some,
but that if I wanted them adjusted more they would need to send the
unit to Levelstar.
Whatever they did helped quite a bit. It isn't perfect, but it is
tons better than when I got it, and good enough for me to be able to
use pretty successfully. If I thought I could do without having it
for several weeks I would probably look into sending it to
Levelstar, but right now that isn't an option that I feel I can take
advantage of doing.
David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100
>>> musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx 4/17/2008 5:53 PM >>>
Yo, can you tell me exactly what was adjusted on it? Since my
unit isn't here, I might as well send it back for
adjustment--time it gets here, the thing will be classified as a
dinosaur.
> ----- ?Original Message -----
>From: "David Tanner" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:19:23 -0500
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
keys
>Yes, you really should, and if you can afford to be without it
for
>an extended period insist that it go on to Levelstar for even
>tighter adjustment. When Mine went to APH they told me that they
>had done some adjust ment, but that it could be sent to Levelstar
>for even more adjustment. I couldn't be without it for that long
>due to training committments that I have training our state
vision
>teachers Braille Plus and support them.
>David Tanner
>Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Assistive Technology Department
>MN State Services f/t Blind
>Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
>Skype name: dtat100
>>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 4/17/2008 7:06 AM
>Hi David,
>I'm writing this on my braille plus, and it's much slower than if
I
>used a braillenote or
>some other note taker.
>I have found that if I don't press the spacebar in just the write
>spot that it doesn't
>take..
>I'm thinking of getting a USB keyboard, but I love brailleing so
I
>may hold out for the
>docking station from APH.
>I wonder if I need to send my braille plus to APH to have the
keys
>looked at?
>Stacey and Chesley
>PS. I find that I write something and it's not what I thought I
>wrote. Dots are left
>out or inserted, and this doesn't happen to me nearly as much on
>larger braille keyboards.
>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:33:13 -0500, David Tanner wrote:
>>I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the
>design
>>and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change. It is
not
>>possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or
>accurately
>>as on most Braille keyboards. And, I don't know what the
Braille
>>keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that
>I
>>have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and
>poorly
>>made. I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on
>any
>>other Braille device in a long time. And, I cannot believe that
>>this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed
>in
>>such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has
>been
>>said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right
>place
>>the keys won't register correctly or at all.
>>I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it
>back
>>to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more,
>but
>>I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to
>go
>>to Colorado to get that done. The bottom line is that the
>material
>>used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be
changed,
>>and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed.
>>Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the
>>unit. The problem is that the current design is not any place
>close
>>to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a
>>Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they
>were
>>using a Perkins Braillewriter.
>>David Tanner
>>Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
>>Assistive Technology Specialist
>>Assistive Technology Department
>>MN State Services f/t Blind
>>Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
>>Skype name: dtat100
>>>>>richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM
>>Hi,
>>It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard. At least, none of
>>the
>>keyboards I've used.
>>And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow
someone
>>to be that
>>picky.
>>I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters
>>program and
>>not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of
>a
>>slate and
>>stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus.
>>So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all
this
>>out for
>>yourself. You won't be sorry you did.
>>Richard
>>_____
>>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
>>Lambert
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of
the
>>keys
>>Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I
>>remember
>>having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I
>was
>>a
>>special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy -
>she
>>hated the
>>"click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a set of
>keys
>>that
>>would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was
>>trying to
>>take notes from a lecture situation.
>>_____
>>From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of
the
>>keys
>>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700
>>Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet,
>>especially
>>compared with the Braille 'n Speak.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM
>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the
>keys
>>I was curious. Several people on the list noted that the keys
on
>>the Braille
>>Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys. Is the noise
>>level the
>>same on the Icon or is it quieter?
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