[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys

From: Andy <musicproandy@xxxxxxxxx>
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:53:51 -0400

Yo, can you tell me exactly what was adjusted on it? Since myunit isn't here, I might as well send it back foradjustment--time it gets here, the thing will be classified as adinosaur.

----- ?Original Message -----
From: "David Tanner" <David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:19:23 -0500

Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the

keys

Yes, you really should, and if you can afford to be without it

for

an extended period insist that it go on to Levelstar for even
tighter adjustment.  When Mine went to APH they told me that they
had done some adjust ment, but that it could be sent to Levelstar
for even more adjustment.  I couldn't be without it for that long

due to training committments that I have training our state

vision

teachers Braille Plus and support them.

David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795  Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100

staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 4/17/2008 7:06 AM

Hi David,

I'm writing this on my braille plus, and it's much slower than if

used a braillenote or
some other note taker.
I have found that if I don't press the spacebar in just the write
spot that it doesn't
take..
I'm thinking of getting a USB keyboard, but I love brailleing so

may hold out for the
docking station from APH.
I wonder if I need to send my braille plus to APH to have the

keys

looked at?
Stacey and Chesley
PS.  I find that I write something and it's not what I thought I
wrote.  Dots are left
out or inserted, and this doesn't happen to me nearly as much on
larger braille keyboards.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:33:13 -0500, David Tanner wrote:

I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the

design

and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change.  It is not
possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or

accurately

as on most Braille keyboards.  And, I don't know what the Braille
keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that

have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and

poorly

made.  I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on

any

other Braille device in a long time.  And, I cannot believe that
this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed

in

such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has

been

said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right

place

the keys won't register correctly or at all.

I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it

back

to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more,

but

I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to

go

to Colorado to get that done.  The bottom line is that the

material

used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed,
and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed.
Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the
unit.  The problem is that the current design is not any place

close

to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a
Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they

were

using a Perkins Braillewriter.

David Tanner
Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
Assistive Technology Specialist
Assistive Technology Department
MN State Services f/t Blind
Office- 651-642-0795  Cell- 651-270-2233
Skype name: dtat100

richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM

Hi,
It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard.  At least, none of
the
keyboards I've used.

And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow someone
to be that
picky.

I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters
program and
not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of

slate and
stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus.

So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all this
out for
yourself.  You won't be sorry you did.

Richard

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From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
keys

Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I
remember
having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I

was

a
special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy -

she

hated the
"click click click" sound.  Essentailly I didn't want a set of

keys

that
would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was
trying to
take notes from a lecture situation.

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From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
keys
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700

Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet,
especially
compared with the Braille 'n Speak.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the

keys

I was curious.  Several people on the list noted that the keys on
the Braille
Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys.  Is the noise
level the
same on the Icon or is it quieter?

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