[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys

  • From: Chase Crispin <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 13:54:39 -0600

No, they don't.  APH, who makes the Braille Plus, does.
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:15:11 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote:



>I didn't realize that LevelStar had no 30 day money back guarantee. 
>Wow. Thanks for the info on that (this definitely changes things - good 
>thing I haven't sat down with either of the two units yet LOL). > From: 
>chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 12:30:37 -0600 > To: 
>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > CC:  > Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 
>Question about the noise level of the keys >  > No no no no no no.  
>Look at a Braille Plus first.  None of my keys on either of  > my units 
>are like that.  If you buy an Icon and don't like it for some bazaar 
>reason, you are  > stuck with it.  If you don't like the Braille Plus 
>for some strange reason, you can send it back  > as long as you have 
>had it 30 days or less. > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:36:45 -0700, Rob 
>Lambert wrote: >  >  >  > >IF it's that bad, maybe I should look closer 
>at the Icon then...what do  > >you think? Are the rubber keys also bad? 
>> From:  > >David.Tanner@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;  
>> >richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:33:13 -0500 > 
>Subject:  > >[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the 
>keys >  > I  > >don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that 
>the design >  > >and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change. 
> It is not >  > >possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly 
>or accurately >  > >as on most Braille keyboards.  And, I don't know 
>what the Braille >  > >keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys 
>on the unit that I >  > >have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and 
>sound cheap and poorly >  > >made.  I don't think I have seen as poor 
>quality Braille keys on any >  > >other Braille device in a long time.  
>And, I cannot believe that > this  > >keyboard is going to hold up very 
>well, and is not designed in > such a  > >way to make it possible to 
>type very fast when; as has been > said  > >before on this list; if you 
>don't press in just the right place > the  > >keys won't register 
>correctly or at all. >  > I had my Braille Plus  > >less than three 
>weeks and had to send it back > to APH to have the  > >keyboard 
>adjusted, and it really needed more, but > I didn't want to  > >wait an 
>additional 3 weeks to a month for it to go > to Colorado to get  > 
>>that done.  The bottom line is that the material > used to make the  > 
>>keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed, > and something about 
> > >how the keyboard is designed needs changed.  > Since I don't know 
>what  > >they are doing below the surface of the > unit.  The problem 
>is that  > >the current design is not any place close > to what it 
>should be when  > >you consider how many people type on a > Braille 
>keyboard because of  > >their habits formed back when they were > using 
>a Perkins  > >Braillewriter. >  >  >   >  >  >  > David Tanner > 
>Rehabilitation  > >Program Specialist 3 > Assistive Technology 
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>dtat100 >  >  > >>>  > >richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>> > 
>Hi, > It isn't any louder  > >than a standard keyboard.  At least, none 
>of > the > keyboards I've  > >used. >   > And, as someone else pointed 
>out, the ADA would not allow  > >someone > to be that > picky. >   > I 
>took notes on a slate and stylus  > >all the way through a Masters > 
>program and > not one professor  > >complained about the noise and the 
>clicking of a > slate and > stylus  > >is way more annoying than the 
>keys on the Braille Plus. >   > So, go  > >order it and use the 30 day 
>return policy to find all this > out for >  > >yourself.  You won't be 
>sorry you did. >   > Richard >   >  >   _____    > >>  > From: 
>icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  >  > 
>>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob > Lambert 
>>  > >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM > To:  > 
>>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question  > 
>>about the noise level of the > keys >  >  >  > Understand that I have  
>> >not actually seen the unit myself, but I > remember > having a  > 
>>professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I was > a >  > 
>>special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy - she >  
>> >hated the > "click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a 
>set  > >of keys > that > would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher 
>while a  > >student was > trying to > take notes from a lecture 
>situation. >  >  >   > > _____   >  > From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > 
>To:  > >icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: 
>Question  > >about the noise level of the > keys > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 
>2008 16:38:34  > >-0700 >  >  > Hmm, I must be unique as I think the 
>Braille+ keys are  > >quiet, > especially > compared with the Braille 
>'n Speak. >   >   >  >  > >----- Original Message -----  > From: Rob 
>Lambert  > ><mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx>   > To: 
>icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  > Sent:  > >Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 
>PM > Subject: [icon-discuss] Question  > >about the noise level of the 
>keys >  > I was curious. Several people on  > >the list noted that the 
>keys on > the Braille > Plus are noisy, both  > >the rubber and plastic 
>keys. Is the noise > level the > same on the  > >Icon or is it quieter? 
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