[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
- From: Chase Crispin <chase.crispin@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 13:19:38 -0600
I could not agree more. Thanks, Michael! I have been wanting to say that for
weeks, but was
afraid of the consequences. I walked into a store with Notetakers, and they
told me the
minute I walked in, You need a Braillenote. I said uh uh. I want the Braille
Plus. Who wants to be trapped with a thing with barley a flashdisk, and no
hard drive?
Buying Wifi and Blue Tooth cards? Short battery life? High prices? Not
me, that's who. So, I don't think that company likes me now, but I don't want
a
notetaker notice I didn't say mobile manager, shoved in my face when I walk
into the door. I wonder what a sighted person would say if I forced them to
buy a cell
phone they didn't like? They would have a fit. So, that's my opinion on what
you said.
Upset Chase
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:17:03 -0400, MICHAEL MCCARTY wrote:
>Thank you for what you said in this message. Rehab people should be
>leaving it up to the cliant as to what notetaker works best for them (I
>hate it when sighted people tell me what works best for me) and you're
>right, we've never seen a unit that can do so much at this price point
>before. I mean, what do people want from a notetaker? If you want to
>compare the Braille+ to a Braille 'n Speak, don't, that's like
>comparing a model A Ford to a 2008 Mustang. If you don't like the
>Braille+, send it back and purchase a Braille 'n Speak, we still have
>them and they are on clearance. We're marketing them as a person's
>first notetaker now because of the technology, but hey, if you like the
>way the keys work, like the spacing, like the sound they either do or
>don't make, please, purchase a Braille 'n Speak while we still have
>them. Here's the info from the APH Flea Market Page:
>
>1-07320-01
>Braille 'n Speak Scholar Talking PDA
>$1249.00
>$375.00
>1-07317-00
>Braille 'n Speak Imagewriter Cable
>$32.00
>$20.00
>1-07318-00
>Braille 'n Speak Serial Interface Cable
>$33.00
>$15.00
>
>
>
>>>>ritalharrison@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/17/08 05:46AM >>>
>I find it interesting to see all of the complaints going back and forth
>on this list, concerning the BP.
>
>Yes, there are bugs in the unit, as there are with any new product.
>However, where have we seen anything close to what we all have been
>asking for as Blind and Visually Impaired individuals...
>
>To have access to email, music, books, a recorder, a Braille Notetaker,
>the internet, and much more, with the portability at the fraction of the
>cost of a Braille Note Taker...
>
>I find the keyboard layout to be easier to work with, than I originally
>thought, when I first received the BP. As any new device, you can
>adjust with time and practice. When there is Braille support, this, in
>my mind, will be the "perfect" package.
>
>I would personally like to take this opportunity to thank the folks who
>are working to make this device, the product that we have all been
>asking for, for many years. I greatly appreciate this awesome
>technology, and I do hope that the people in the positions of making
>decisions on buying this product for clients, don't deny others from
>receiving this great tool, because of their own personal view points.
>To withhold advancements in technology would be unfortunate and very
>disappointing...
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:33 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
>
>
>I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the design
>and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change. It is not
>possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or accurately
>as on most Braille keyboards. And, I don't know what the Braille
>keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that I
>have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and poorly
>made. I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on any
>other Braille device in a long time. And, I cannot believe that
>this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed in
>such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has been
>said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right place
>the keys won't register correctly or at all.
>
>I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it back
>to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more, but
>I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to go
>to Colorado to get that done. The bottom line is that the material
>used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed,
>and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed.
>Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the
>unit. The problem is that the current design is not any place close
>to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a
>Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they were
>using a Perkins Braillewriter.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>David Tanner
>Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
>Assistive Technology Specialist
>Assistive Technology Department
>MN State Services f/t Blind
>Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
>Skype name: dtat100
>
>
>>>>richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>>
>Hi,
>It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard. At least, none of
>the
>keyboards I've used.
>
>And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow someone
>to be that
>picky.
>
>I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters
>program and
>not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of a
>slate and
>stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus.
>
>So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all this
>out for
>yourself. You won't be sorry you did.
>
>Richard
>
>
>_____
>
>From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
>Lambert
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
>keys
>
>
>
>Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I
>remember
>having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I was
>a
>special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy - she
>hated the
>"click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a set of keys
>that
>would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was
>trying to
>take notes from a lecture situation.
>
>
>_____
>
>From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
>keys
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700
>
>
>Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet,
>especially
>compared with the Braille 'n Speak.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM
>Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the keys
>
>I was curious. Several people on the list noted that the keys on
>the Braille
>Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys. Is the noise
>level the
>same on the Icon or is it quieter?
>
>
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