[icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
- From: "Michael Jones" <mjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:59:26 -0600
Hello everyone,
This topic is now closed.
Thank you,
Michael Jones
LevelStar
1500 Cherry Street
Suite D
Louisville, CO 80027
Phone:800-315-2305 Ext. 707
Email: mjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Website: www.levelstar.com
-----Original Message-----
From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of stacey robinson
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:00
To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
Hi Richard,
That is certainly true.
I had a pacmate once and sold it.
It was awful.
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
In Tennessee.
staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
> Amen!
> I've seen no higher failure rate with these units than the first round of
> Pac Mates, or BrailleNotes.
> And those units don't hold a candle to what this one can do.
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rita L. harrison
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:46 AM
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
>
> I find it interesting to see all of the complaints going back and forth
> on this list, concerning the BP.
>
> Yes, there are bugs in the unit, as there are with any new product.
> However, where have we seen anything close to what we all have been
> asking for as Blind and Visually Impaired individuals...
>
> To have access to email, music, books, a recorder, a Braille Notetaker,
> the internet, and much more, with the portability at the fraction of the
> cost of a Braille Note Taker...
>
> I find the keyboard layout to be easier to work with, than I originally
> thought, when I first received the BP. As any new device, you can
> adjust with time and practice. When there is Braille support, this, in
> my mind, will be the "perfect" package.
>
> I would personally like to take this opportunity to thank the folks who
> are working to make this device, the product that we have all been
> asking for, for many years. I greatly appreciate this awesome
> technology, and I do hope that the people in the positions of making
> decisions on buying this product for clients, don't deny others from
> receiving this great tool, because of their own personal view points.
> To withhold advancements in technology would be unfortunate and very
> disappointing...
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tanner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:33 PM
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the keys
>
>
> I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the design
> and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change. It is not
> possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or accurately
> as on most Braille keyboards. And, I don't know what the Braille
> keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that I
> have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and poorly
> made. I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on any
> other Braille device in a long time. And, I cannot believe that
> this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed in
> such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has been
> said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right place
> the keys won't register correctly or at all.
>
> I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it back
> to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more, but
> I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to go
> to Colorado to get that done. The bottom line is that the material
> used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed,
> and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed.
> Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the
> unit. The problem is that the current design is not any place close
> to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a
> Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they were
> using a Perkins Braillewriter.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Tanner
> Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3
> Assistive Technology Specialist
> Assistive Technology Department
> MN State Services f/t Blind
> Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233
> Skype name: dtat100
>
>
>>>> richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>>
> Hi,
> It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard. At least, none of
> the
> keyboards I've used.
>
> And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow someone
> to be that
> picky.
>
> I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters
> program and
> not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of a
> slate and
> stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus.
>
> So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all this
> out for
> yourself. You won't be sorry you did.
>
> Richard
>
>
> _____
>
> From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
> Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
> keys
>
>
>
> Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I
> remember
> having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I was
> a
> special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy - she
> hated the
> "click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a set of keys
> that
> would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was
> trying to
> take notes from a lecture situation.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the
> keys
> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700
>
>
> Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet,
> especially
> compared with the Braille 'n Speak.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM
> Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the keys
>
> I was curious. Several people on the list noted that the keys on
> the Braille
> Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys. Is the noise
> level the
> same on the Icon or is it quieter?
>
>
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