Hi David, I'm writing this on my braille plus, and it's much slower than if I used a braillenote or some other note taker. I have found that if I don't press the spacebar in just the write spot that it doesn't take.. I'm thinking of getting a USB keyboard, but I love brailleing so I may hold out for the docking station from APH. I wonder if I need to send my braille plus to APH to have the keys looked at? Stacey and Chesley PS. I find that I write something and it's not what I thought I wrote. Dots are left out or inserted, and this doesn't happen to me nearly as much on larger braille keyboards. On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:33:13 -0500, David Tanner wrote: >I don't think that the sound is as critical as it is that the design >and materials of the Braille keys needs a huge change. It is not >possible to type on the Braille Plus nearly as quickly or accurately >as on most Braille keyboards. And, I don't know what the Braille >keys now are exactly like, but the Braille keys on the unit that I >have are mushey, wobbely, and both feel and sound cheap and poorly >made. I don't think I have seen as poor quality Braille keys on any >other Braille device in a long time. And, I cannot believe that >this keyboard is going to hold up very well, and is not designed in >such a way to make it possible to type very fast when; as has been >said before on this list; if you don't press in just the right place >the keys won't register correctly or at all. > >I had my Braille Plus less than three weeks and had to send it back >to APH to have the keyboard adjusted, and it really needed more, but >I didn't want to wait an additional 3 weeks to a month for it to go >to Colorado to get that done. The bottom line is that the material >used to make the keys on the Braille keyboard need to be changed, >and something about how the keyboard is designed needs changed. >Since I don't know what they are doing below the surface of the >unit. The problem is that the current design is not any place close >to what it should be when you consider how many people type on a >Braille keyboard because of their habits formed back when they were >using a Perkins Braillewriter. > > > > > > >David Tanner >Rehabilitation Program Specialist 3 >Assistive Technology Specialist >Assistive Technology Department >MN State Services f/t Blind >Office- 651-642-0795 Cell- 651-270-2233 >Skype name: dtat100 > > >>>>richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx 4/16/2008 9:24 PM >>> >Hi, >It isn't any louder than a standard keyboard. At least, none of >the >keyboards I've used. > >And, as someone else pointed out, the ADA would not allow someone >to be that >picky. > >I took notes on a slate and stylus all the way through a Masters >program and >not one professor complained about the noise and the clicking of a >slate and >stylus is way more annoying than the keys on the Braille Plus. > >So, go order it and use the 30 day return policy to find all this >out for >yourself. You won't be sorry you did. > >Richard > > >_____ > >From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob >Lambert >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:40 PM >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the >keys > > > >Understand that I have not actually seen the unit myself, but I >remember >having a professor who forbade laptops (except for me because I was >a >special case) because she thought the keyboard was too noisy - she >hated the >"click click click" sound. Essentailly I didn't want a set of keys >that >would be so loud that they'd annoy a teacher while a student was >trying to >take notes from a lecture situation. > > >_____ > >From: ljgehres@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question about the noise level of the >keys >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:38:34 -0700 > > >Hmm, I must be unique as I think the Braille+ keys are quiet, >especially >compared with the Braille 'n Speak. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rob Lambert <mailto:rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 3:41 PM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Question about the noise level of the keys > >I was curious. Several people on the list noted that the keys on >the Braille >Plus are noisy, both the rubber and plastic keys. Is the noise >level the >same on the Icon or is it quieter? > > >_____ > >Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live >Messenger. 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