[ibis-quality] Minutes from the 9 Aug 2011 ibis-quality meeting
- From: Mike LaBonte <mike@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ibis-quality@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:59:54 -0400
Minutes from the 9 Aug 2011 ibis-quality meeting are attached.
Mike
Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee
09 August 2011
11:00-12:00 EST (08:00-09:00 PST)
ROLL CALL
Cisco Systems: * Mike LaBonte
Ericsson: Anders Ekholm
Green Streak Programs: Lynne Green
Huawei Technologies: Guan Tao
IBM: Bruce Archambeault
* Greg Edlund
IOMethodology: Lance Wang
Mentor Graphics: John Angulo
Micron Technology: Moshiul Haque,
Randy Wolff
Nokia Siemens Networks: * Eckhard Lenski
QLogic Corp.: * James Zhou
Signal Consulting Group: Tim Coyle
Teraspeed Consulting Group: * Bob Ross
Texas Instruments: Pavani Jella
Everyone in attendance marked by *
NOTE: "AR" = Action Required.
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Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting.
Call for opens and IBIS related patent disclosures:
- James Zhou introduction:
- Works for QLogic in Orange County, CA
- They design and produce storage networking and interface cards
- James has created and used ASIC IBIS models
- Recently using AMI models for Serdes
- There are 6 people in the SI group
- Some compatibility issues are found using AMI in existing EDA tools
- Education on how AMI works would be helpful
AR Review:
- Greg prepare docs to review Opal proposals related to AMI quality:
- TBD
- Mike suggest QUAIL process at open forum:
- This was discussed at open forum meeting Aug 5
- There seemed to be general agreement to keep individual items in committee
- There was no vote on this
- Bob: We have not had a process for other documents like the Cookbook
- We could have a table of QUAILS at voting time
- We could use Mantis
AR: Mike add QUAILs to Mantis
- Bob conduct tests of parser behavior for test keywords
- No tests yet
- There may be some tests specific to BUG 104
- Should be able to place [Test *] keywords anywhere in an IBIS file
New items:
Mike: Should we produce an AMI cookbook?
- Bob: It is difficult to understand
- Mike gave a short history of the development of AMI
- Mike: Maybe someone could give us a basic overview presentation on AMI
- Bob: There was one summit presentation, maybe from Walter Katz
- Eckhard: The AMI Compliance presentation?
- Bob: Model_Specific parameters have cause compatibility problems
- James: We rely heavily on EDA support
- Bob: Additional required files cause problems
- James: User needs to understand the basic process
- We know convolution is used, but how it is used in AMI is confusing
- Even using a model requires some knowledge, but it should not be how to
create it
- Greg: It would help to walk through creation of a simple model
- Bob: The flow has many paths
- Mike: There is the complication that GetWave is optional
- Bob: We could invite presenters
- Greg might capture the essence of it
- Mike: We could ask the vendor to present to us
- Bob: The vendors are Agilent, Ansoft, SiSoft, Sigrity, Synopsys, Cadence, and
Mentor
- James: It should not be bogged down with vendor specific things
- Bob: We could ask them to shoot for 10 minutes, give them 30
- James: Some EDA vendors already have presentations we could look at
- We would focus on the fundamentals and create a basic presentation
- Bob: Greg's checklist may help
- Eckhard may have something helpful too
AR: James prepare "starter" presentation on AMI fundamentals
Mike: We need to find a conferencing solution
- I will try to find someone at Cisco to provide WebEx for us
AR: Mike try to identify Cisco host for WebEx conferencing
Next meetings:
- Next meetings Aug 16 and Aug 23
Aug 16 agenda:
- External Test
Meeting ended at 12:06 Eastern Time.
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