[ibis-macro] Re: Typos/Value/Default/Foramt BIRD draft rev 3 posted
- From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:16:13 -0700
Walter,
I am reading your comments now in detail. I wonder whether
you have a typo in the row numbers on your first comment:
"20, 21, 22, 26 all relate to Tx_Jitter and Rx_Clock_PDF parameters and
Types Table, Gaussian, Dual-Dirac, DjRj. And also relate to the use of
Table on model specific Usage In parameters. I would suggest that
discussion on these Format be deferred until I present the Jitter
section of BIRD 119.
The following do not include Formats, Table, Gaussian, Dual-Dirac, DjRj"
Could you please verify this?
Thanks,
Arpad
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From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:46 AM
To: Muranyi, Arpad; ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: Typos/Value/Default/Foramt BIRD draft rev
3 posted
Arpad,
Let me comment on the remaining issues in your spreadsheet.
20, 21, 22, 26 all relate to Tx_Jitter and Rx_Clock_PDF parameters and
Types Table, Gaussian, Dual-Dirac, DjRj. And also relate to the use of
Table on model specific Usage In parameters. I would suggest that
discussion on these Format be deferred until I present the Jitter
section of BIRD 119.
The following do not include Formats, Table, Gaussian, Dual-Dirac, DjRj
25 Type and Format relationships
Type Allowed Formats
Boolean Value, List, Corner
String Value, List, Corner
Float Value, List, Corner, Range, Increment, Steps
Integer Value, List, Corner, Range, Increment, Steps
UI Value, List, Corner, Range, Increment, Steps
Tap Value, List, Corner, Range, Increment, Steps
UI specifically is used to describe the values of parameters that are in
Seconds. If the Type is Float, then a value of 10e-12 would be
interpreted at 10ps. If the Type is UI, and the bit_time was 100ps, then
a value of .1 would be interpreted by the EDA tool (and the DLL) as
10ps.
33 Impulse Matrix
AMI_Init can only modify the first column
AMI_Init may not modify the crosstalk (not first) columns
36 AMI parameters In/Out String - "", tabs, CRLF, etc", clarify rules on
how generated from a specific ami file
Leaving the Table aside, the rules in the BNF are quite clear.
" are not allowed except surrounding string variables
any ASCI character (except ") are allowed between " surrounding string
varables
tabs, CRLF are treated as white space
BFN as described in BIRD 5.0 (Noting that (Reserved_Parameter and
(Model_Specific branches are eliminated
Each parameter is followed by one of the allowed values specified for
that parameter.
37 AMI parameters In/Out - "describe what the purpose of parameters out
is"
The purpose of parameters out is for the AMI_Init call, and the
AMI_GetWave calls to return to the EDA tool the values of Usage Out and
InOut parameters. The EDA tool is to either report these values to the
user, or use these values as specified by IBIS if they are reserved
parameters, or by the model maker if they are Model Specific parameters.
Walter
Walter Katz
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[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 11:40 AM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Typos/Value/Default/Foramt BIRD draft rev 3
posted
It was brought to my attention that the 2nd link below
is incorrect for the updated Task List... Please try
this one instead:
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20101013/arpadmurany
i/IBISv5.0%20AMI%20specification%20BIRD%20task%20list/IBIS50AMI_TaskList
_2010_10_14.pdf
Thanks,
Arpad
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From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:25 PM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] Typos/Value/Default/Foramt BIRD draft rev 3 posted
Hello everyone,
This is to let everyone know that rev. 3 of the
Typos/Format/Value/Default BIRD draft has been
posted on the ATM web site:
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20101013/arpadmurany
i/IBIS-AMI%20Typographical%20Corrections%20BIRD%20draft/Typos_Format_Val
ue_Default_BIRD_3.txt
This version includes the decisions we made in
the last ATM teleconference (on October/12/2010)
and also Walter's suggested words on Default.
The examples do not contain Format, but the
explanations for the rules do mention it. Having
to mention Format in the rules caused some serious
headaches for me, and the BIRD got bigger, but I
think it works. Please verify everything to make
sure I didn't make any mistakes. Comments are welcome.
I also asked Mike L. to post an updated Task List,
which is at:
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20101013/arpadmurany
i/IBISv5.0%20AMI%20specification%20BIRD%20task%20list/IBIS50AMI_TaskList
_2010_10_13.pdf
Please come prepared to the next ATM teleconference
so we can discuss the above BIRD draft meaningfully,
and possibly put it behind us...
Thanks,
Arpad
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