Walter, with all due respect, all one needs to know are three pieces of information: 1) where are all receivers and drivers 2) what receiver are we currently measuring 3) what drivers in near end proximity to the receiver. with those three pieces of information, all crosstalk methodologies can be implemented. One does not need special cases to describe each potential methodology. Scott On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Walter Katz <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Scott,**** > > ** ** > > There is more than one way to skin a cat. There are crosstalk > methodologies that do not care about victim and aggressors. There are > crosstalk methodologies that do care which terminals are victims and > aggressors. An IC vendor can and will choose the way they are going to > construct and distribute these models. We need to be able to support both > methodologies.**** > > ** ** > > Walter**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:38 PM > *To:* Walter Katz > *Cc:* IBIS-ATM; Randy Wolff > *Subject:* Re: [ibis-macro] The EMD like syntax of package and on-die > interconnect models**** > > ** ** > > i disagree with victim aggressor constructs. All that needs to be known > is the location of the drivers and receivers, and grouping of such for a > general solution.**** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Walter Katz <wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:**** > > All,**** > > **** > > I am enclosing a presentation which demonstrates the simple language used > to describe both the package and on-die interconnect models using the EMD > like methodology applied to all of the types of models that IC Vendors are > requesting to deliver.**** > > **** > > Walter**** > > **** > > Walter Katz**** > > wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx**** > > Phone 303.449-2308**** > > Mobile 303.335-6156**** > > **** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > > Scott McMorrow > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > 16 Stormy Brook Rd > Falmouth, ME 04105 > > (401) 284-1827 Business > > http://www.teraspeed.com > > Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > **** > -- Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 16 Stormy Brook Rd Falmouth, ME 04105 (401) 284-1827 Business http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC