Ambrish, Good point, I think that that this would have to be modified as well specifically for Table variables. An alternative is to require all table rows to have a first field that would be essentially a row number as we defined for the Jitter and Clock PDF examples. Walter From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ambrish Varma Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:44 PM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Table Clarification BIRD Walter, I was going through your Table BIRD and found this example and the AMI_parameters_in string on the last page: "(fwd (Usage In) (Type Float) (Table (-0.169324 1.40308 0.33024 ) (-0.738358 -0.293473 -0.06912 ) ) ) The simulator shall include fwd in the AMI_parameters_in strings as: (my_root ... (fwd (-0.169324 1.40308 0.33024 ) (-0.738358 -0.293473 -0.06912 ) ) )" I noticed that there are no row names for the 2 rows in the table. I was going through your mail from earlier (attached) where you point out the rules in the IBIS spec (pages 186/187) and say that " Note 2. above: | 2. Parameter name/value pairs are always enclosed in parentheses, with the | value separated from the name by white space. ... The following example that you propose for multi-row tables violates this rule: (name (a11 a12 a13) (b11 b12 b13)) " Is this inconsistent with the rules in the spec? Or am I mistaken? Thanks, Ambrish. Ambrish Varma | Member of Consulting Staff P: 978.262.6431 <http://www.cadence.com> www.cadence.com _____ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:08 PM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Table Clarification BIRD All, Thanks very much to Arpad for reviewing this and his suggested changes. I am enclosing an updated copy of this BIRD. Walter From: Walter Katz [mailto:wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:42 PM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: Table Clarification BIRD All, I am enclosing an alternative Table Clarification BIRD Walter Walter Katz wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx Phone 303.449-2308 Mobile 720.333-1107