Hello all, From my experience there are some manufacturers who support also for normal old fashioned pushpull-cmos buffers for each buffer an ibis file ( with 3 pins ( pwr,gnd,signal )) And then the user has to put these models together to create a correct ibis file containing all pins and all io-models. Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards / Cordiali saluti / ystävällisin terveisin Eckhard Lenski Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH & Co. KG COO RA GERD BTS BR PDev CAE Lib&IBIS CAE libraries and models Balanstr. 59 81541 München Germany phone : +49 89 636 79002 fax : +49 89 636 78895 email: eckhard.lenski@xxxxxxx Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH & Co. KG Sitz der Gesellschaft: München / Registered office: Munich Registergericht: München / Commercial registry: Munich, HRA 88537 WEEE-Reg.-Nr.: DE 52984304 Persönlich haftende Gesellschafterin / General Partner: Nokia Siemens Networks Management GmbH Geschäftsleitung / Board of Directors: Lydia Sommer, Olaf Horsthemke Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats / Chairman of supervisory board: Lauri Kivinen Sitz der Gesellschaft: München / Registered office: Munich Registergericht: München / Commercial registry: Munich, HRB 163416 > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext > Mirmak, Michael > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 6:34 PM > To: wkatz@xxxxxxxxxx; milabont@xxxxxxxxx; 'IBIS-ATM' > Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Minutes from the 18 and 25 Nov 2008 > ibis-atm meetings > > Walter, > > Could you clarify this please? Do you mean that the > customers of ASIC vendors will, in turn, design their own > ASICs? Are you also implying that providing ASIC buffer > designs is the only/major reason single-buffer IBIS models > are appearing? > > - MM > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:19 AM > To: milabont@xxxxxxxxx; 'IBIS-ATM' > Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Minutes from the 18 and 25 Nov 2008 > ibis-atm meetings > > All, > > In reviewing the minutes of the 11/25/08 meeting I would like > to take issue > with one set of comments: > > - Mike L: Plug and play is important > - Michael M: Only in post-layout analysis > - Arpad: More and more 1-buffer IBIS models are appearing (serdes) > > This is true because the ASIC vendors are supplying SerDes > models to their > customers to help their customers design their systems and select and > configure their Tx/Rx buffers. As soon as their customers > start designing > full ASIC's, they will then build IBIS models for all of > their complete > Components. > > Walter > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike LaBonte > (milabont) > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:00 PM > To: IBIS-ATM > Subject: [ibis-macro] Minutes from the 18 and 25 Nov 2008 > ibis-atm meetings > > Minutes from the 18 and 25 Nov 2008 ibis-atm meetings are attached. > > Mike > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ > IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ > IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro > To unsubscribe send an email: > To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: unsubscribe > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe