Arpad,
My mistake, meant to say:
Consider a file name can be xyz.def.jkl
Last "." Got in there by mistake (end of sentence).
Walter
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Walter,
Considering your example: "xyz.def.jkl.", the extension is an empty
string, i.e.
there is no extension, because your example ends with a dot and there is
nothing after that last dot.
* extension: The portion of a file name after the last period, if
any.
Thanks,
Arpad
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All,
Regarding:
6) IBIS v7.0 Section 3.2 issues (Editorial)
- Item #3 allows a period (.) to be part of the "stem" as well
as the extension of a file name. However, section 3.1 defines
extension as "The portion of a file name after the last period,
if any.". These contradictory definitions need to be corrected.
- discussion
These are not contradictory.
* stem: The portion of a file name before the last period, or the
full file name if no period.
* extension: The portion of a file name after the last period, if
any.
Consider a file name can be xyz.def.jkl.
* The extension is the portion of a file name after the last period
* The extension for this file name is "jkl"
* The stem is "xyz.def"
Item 3 in section 3.2:
3. File names shall have a stem of no more than sixty (60) characters
followed by a period ("."), followed by a file name extension. The file
name and extension shall use characters from the set (space, " ", 0x20 is
not included):
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 _ ^ $ ~ ! # % & - { } ) ( @ ' ` .
The character sequence "./" is not permitted in any reference to an IBIS
file or to any other file format, effectively restricting the naming of
files to those in the same directory as the referring file or a
subdirectory of that directory. Absolute paths - those beginning with a
root name or root directory - are not permitted in a reference to any
file.
Arpad is concerned that "extension shall use characters from the set"
which includes ".". But since extension is after the last ".", then it
cannot contain a ".". Do we really need to change this to say the
following?
3. File names shall have a stem of no more than sixty (60) characters
followed by a period ("."), followed by a file name extension. The file
name shall use characters from the set (space, " ", 0x20 is not included):
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 _ ^ $ ~ ! # % & - { } ) ( @ ' ` .
The extension shall use characters from the set (space, " ", 0x20 is not
included):
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 _ ^ $ ~ ! # % & - { } ) ( @ ' `
The character sequence "./" is not permitted in any reference to an IBIS
file or to any other file format, effectively restricting the naming of
files to those in the same directory as the referring file or a
subdirectory of that directory. Absolute paths - those beginning with a
root name or root directory - are not permitted in a reference to any
file.
I do recommend that we make the following change:
The character sequences "./" and ".." are not permitted in any reference
to an IBIS file or to any other file format, effectively restricting the
naming of files to those in the same directory as the referring file or a
subdirectory of that directory. Absolute paths - those beginning with a
root name or root directory - are not permitted in a reference to any
file.
Walter
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1) Opens
2) Roll call
3) Review of ARs:
Randy: Investigate if/why/how a clock waveform input might be used
- in progress
Michael M.: Investigate if/why/how a clock waveform input might be used
- in progress
Any other AR-s?
4) Call for any IBIS related patent disclosures
5) Approval of minutes
6) IBIS v7.0 Section 3.2 issues (Editorial)
- Item #3 allows a period (.) to be part of the "stem" as well
as the extension of a file name. However, section 3.1 defines
extension as "The portion of a file name after the last period,
if any.". These contradictory definitions need to be corrected.
- discussion
7) IBIS-AMI improvements (All)
- Walter's Summary of DDR5 Issues email
- discussion
9) Complex C_comp modeling (Randy)
- discussion?
10) Motion to adjourn?
Topic bin list:
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- Removing the single-ended input threshold requirements for
differential buffers
- Removing the single-ended characterization load requirements for
differential buffers
- Guidance for power-aware vs. AMI models - do we have rules for
how a power-aware (and therefore potentially non-LTI) buffer
analog data set should be used with IBIS-AMI algorithmic data?
- Fix all the referencing problems in the current specification
(after Randy's C_comp proposal and BIRD189 are done)
- IBIS-AMI Post Simulation Processing (FEC) (Mike L.)
Tabled topics:
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11) New BIRDs from Editorial Task Group? (Bob/Radek)
a) Specify buffer reference terminals for pins ([Pin Reference])
b) Simulation (aka DIA) vs. DUT (depends on #a)
c) C_comp and package reference in simulation clarifications
(depends on #a)
d) Make changes to the [Receiver Threshold], once a) and b) are
resolved
12) 166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow (Walter)
13) BIRD190 (Ambrish)
14) Fangyi's Redriver flow BIRD draft (Fangyi)
- add equations
- consider rewriting the AMI "front end" in the spec (flows)
(when this proposal is added to the spec)
15) How to handle missing min/max data? (Arpad)
- what should be the governing rule for synchronizing
typ/min/max data?
Pending BIRDs awaiting discussion:
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166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow
181.1 I/V Table Clarifications
190 Clarification for Redriver Flow
195.1 Enabling [Rgnd] and [Rpower] Keywords for Algorithmic Input Models
TBD New proposal for Redriver Flow (may replace BIRD166)
TBD C_comp modeling with IBIS-ISS
Thanks,
Arpad
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