Hi Chulsoon,
Thank you for your interesting presentation and paper. We look forward to
having more discussion.
One minor correction: the most recent IBIS Specification link for [4] is now
at:
<http://www.ibis.org/ver7.0/ver7_0.pdf>
http://www.ibis.org/ver7.0/ver7_0.pdf
The other links are correct. IBIS is no longer hosted by the www.eda.org
URL.
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Also the authors for reference [10] should be corrected to Y. Sun and Y.
Dai.
Best Regards,
Bob
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Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for February 23,
2021
Dear ATM Task group,
Thanks for the feedbacks yesterday and it was a great discussion!
Attached please find the paper about the PSIJ modeling in IBIS.
This paper has been submitted to the IEEE EMC+SIPI symposium 2021 and is
under review now.
Regards,
Chulsoon
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Agenda
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1) Opens
2) Roll call
3) Review of ARs:
Arpad and Ambrish: Suggest a better name for Use_New_Flow
- done (Arpad suggested a parameter name for Fangyi in a
private email before Fangyi submitted the BIRD to the
IBIS Open Forum).
Any other AR-s?
4) Call for any IBIS related patent disclosures
5) Approval of minutes
6) Supporting PI modeling/simulation in IBIS (Zhiping)
- introducing a new BIRD by Chulsoon (Hwang)
7) BIRD210 New Redriver AMI Flow (Fangyi)
- discussion (requested by the IBIS Open Forum)
8) Clarification for PAM4 threshold (Hansel)
- introduce/discuss a new BIRD draft
9) GDDR6x signaling update (Randy)
- update?
10) Motion to adjourn?
Topic bin list:
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- Parameter directionality summary (Mike M.)
- Removing the single-ended input threshold requirements for
differential buffers (Mike M.?)
- Removing the single-ended characterization load requirements for
differential buffers (Mike M.?)
- Fix all the referencing problems in the current specification
(after Randy's C_comp proposal and BIRD189 are done)
(BIRD181.1 Bob, Mike L.)
- Guidance for power-aware vs. AMI models - do we have rules for
how a power-aware (and therefore potentially non-LTI) buffer
analog data set should be used with IBIS-AMI algorithmic data?
(important topic - 2018 ASIA IBIS Summit presentations)
(the spec. may not need to be changed for this)
- Digital signing of DLL/SO files. Should it be mentioned in the
spec, or required?
Tabled ARs:
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Tabled topics:
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11) Old Redriver flow proposals/BIRDs
a) Intel's Redriver Flow presentation (Intel)
b) 166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow (Walter)
c) BIRD190 (Ambrish)
d) Fangyi's (old) Redriver flow BIRD draft (Fangyi)
- add equations
- consider rewriting the AMI "front end" in the spec (flows)
(when this proposal is added to the spec)
12) Support for RDL in IBIS (Walter)
13) Jitter HF/LF components and Jitter Amplification (Mike M.)
14) Other DDR5 related topics
- rise fall asymmetry
15) New BIRDs from Editorial Task Group? (Bob/Radek)
a) Specify buffer reference terminals for pins ([Pin Reference])
b) Simulation (aka DIA) vs. DUT (depends on #a)
c) C_comp and package reference in simulation clarifications
(depends on #a)
d) Make changes to the [Receiver Threshold], once a) and b) are
resolved
16) How to handle missing min/max data? (Arpad)
- what should be the governing rule for synchronizing
typ/min/max data?
Pending BIRDs awaiting discussion:
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166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow
190 Clarification for Redriver Flow
TBD New proposal for Redriver Flow (may replace BIRD166)
Thanks,
Arpad
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