Time: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at Noon US Pacific Time
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Agenda
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1) Opens
Holiday schedule:
December 12 on
December 19 on
December 26 cancel
January 2 cancel
January 9 on
2) Roll call
3) Review of ARs:
Any other AR-s?
4) Call for any IBIS related patent disclosures
5) Approval of minutes
6) BIRD189: Groups/Sets resolution, including Aggressor treatment
- discussion (Bob, Walter)
7) Forward error correction (Mike L.)
- introduction
8) Motion to adjourn?
Topic bin list:
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- FEC handling (Mike already suggested this)
- Complex C_comp resolution (Randy's suggestion)
- Allowing Terminator as a model_type for IBIS-AMI receivers
(this keeps getting dropped)
- Updating the input thresholds/measurement target information in
IBIS to include an eye diagram specification in the IBIS file
(including BER)
- Removing the single-ended input threshold requirements for
differential buffers
- Removing the single-ended characterization load requirements for
differential buffers
- Guidance for power-aware vs. AMI models - do we have rules for
how a power-aware (and therefore potentially non-LTI) buffer
analog data set should be used with IBIS-AMI algorithmic data?
- Fix all the referencing problems in the current specification
(after Randy's C_comp proposal and BIRD189 are done)
Tabled topics:
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9) Buffer impedance / C_comp improvements (Randy)
- discussion
10) Single ended applications of algorithmic modeling (All)
- do we need to make any changes in the spec?
- we need Fangyi's presence to discuss his concerns
- discussion
a) single ended filter needs different algorithms
- EQ effecting Vref
b) rise/fall may be asymmetric
- gets worse at higher data rate
c) loss of information when using difference signals only
d) power aware simulation (SSO effects)
11) New BIRDs from Editorial Task Group? (Bob/Radek)
a. Specify buffer reference terminals for pins ([Pin Reference])
b. Simulation (aka DIA) vs. DUT (depends on #a)
c. C_comp and package reference in simulation clarifications
(depends on #a)
d. Make changes to the [Receiver Threshold], once a. and b. are resolved
12) 166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow (Walter)
13) BIRD190 (Ambrish)
14) Fangyi's Redriver flow BIRD draft (Fangyi)
- add equations
- consider rewriting the AMI "front end" in the spec (flows)
(when this proposal is added to the spec)
15) How to handle missing min/max data? (Arpad)
- what should be the governing rule for synchronizing
typ/min/max data?
Pending BIRDs, expected to be rejected:
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125.1 Make IBIS-ISS Available for IBIS Package Modeling
145.3 Cascading IBIS I/O buffers with [External Circuit]s using the [Model
Call] keyword
163 Instantiating and Connecting [External Circuit] Package Models with
[Circuit Call]
164 Allowing Package Models to be defined in [External Circuit]
Pending BIRDs, expected to be accepted (currently in discussion):
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165 Parameter Passing Improvements for [External Circuit]s
189.5 Interconnect Modeling Using IBIS-ISS and Touchstone
Pending BIRDs awaiting discussion:
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166.4 Resolving problems with Redriver Init Flow
181.1 I/V Table Clarifications
190 Clarification for Redriver Flow
TBD New proposal for Redriver Flow (may replace BIRD166)
TBD C_comp modeling with IBIS-ISS
Thanks,
Arpad
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