Time: May 22, 2012 Noon US Pacific Time ===== Audio: ====== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 <--- (For Canada) 0114501530 <--- (For Sweden) 0201400572 <--- (For Sweden Toll Free) 069509594672 <--- (For Germany) 08001014542 <--- (For Germany Toll free) Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting: http://tinyurl.com/yvmesj or: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j%23-%25%7E5 Mentor Global Crossing Teleconference commands: http://www.globalcrossing.com/customer/collaboration/cust_ready_access_tips.aspx FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Opens 2) Call for any related patent disclosures 3) Review of ARs: Arpad: Submit BIRD 123.3 to the IBIS Open Forum - done Bob: Propose a simpler way for addressing the needs of parameter passing under [External Model] and [External Circuit] - not done Arpad: Write a new revision of BIRD 117 and 118 to generalize references to parameters in files (.ami or any) - in progress Any other AR-s? Old ARs: Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do 4) Try to answer the questions raised by the Editorial Committee on clock_times - if clock_times are supposed to be monotonically increasing, are repeated "-1" violating this requirement? (No, because the first "-1" is the end of the vector). - what is the Rx model supposed to do when its CDR goes out of lock? (Write values which are at a different frequency). - are good values allowed after a bunch of "-1" values, as if the CDR goes "stop and go" style? (No). - is the Rx model allowed to skip, i.e. have a large jump in the clock_times value? - is the tool supposed to consider the model to be bad if the clock_times are outside the 1UI +/-jitter range? If so, how should the tool differentiate between being a bad model and going out of lock? 5) ParameterTreeKeyword_BIRD_draft1 (Arpad) - introducing the new BIRD - collect initial feedback 6) BIRD 121.2 draft2 (Walter) - Walter updated the BIRD (removed all references to the .report file) - but we still need a formal motion to continue the discussions... 7) BIRD 150, dependency table (Walter) - questions/comments/discussion? 8) BIRD 117.4/118.3 draft3 (Arpad) - eliminate 120 character line requirement inside these keywords? - use virtual file name instead of tree name? - should we allow referencing a different .ami file from these analog parameter assignments from the .ami file defined in the [Algorithmic Model] keyword? - separate the general tree syntax rules from context specific rules which apply only to AMI or *-AMS and ISS models - define the rules for the various parameter types for this context (for [External Model], [External Circuit] parameters) - Reserved vs. Model_Specific? - required vs. optional - questions/comments/discussion? 9) BIRD 116 and BIRD 122 (Arpad & Walter) - questions/comments/discussion? 10) BIRD 125 package modeling (Arpad) 11) New BIRD draft on Naming Rules (Walter) - questions/comments/discussion? 12) Info, Out, InOut BIRD (Arpad) - latest wording includes "in order to be compliant with this specification, Model_Specific parameters ... must not ...", and omits the word "simulation" so it's meaning doesn't have to be defined - questions/comments/discussion? 13) Eye Mask definition (Arpad) - Rx_Receiver_Sensitivity is the equivalent of the vertical (or voltage) part of an eye mask. It would make sense to define the horizontal (timing) portion of the eye mask also. - questions/comments/discussion? 14) What is the purpose of the specification? Describe the syntax and rules of the syntax, or tell the reader how to make models? - questions/comments/discussion? Tabled topics: ============== - BIRD 144.3 Direct S-parameters under [External Model] (Cadence) - BIRD 145.2 Cascading [Model] with [External Model] (Cadence) - BIRD 121.1, data management parameters (file support) (Walter) Tabled AR-s: ============ Ambrish update BIRD 145 for pad to pin mapping and other clarifications - Need to say what it will not solve - tabled Thanks, Arpad ===================================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------- IBIS Macro website : http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/ IBIS Macro reflector: //www.freelists.org/list/ibis-macro To unsubscribe send an email: To: ibis-macro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: unsubscribe