[ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 3/15/2011
- From: "Muranyi, Arpad" <Arpad_Muranyi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "IBIS-ATM" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:46:02 -0700
One more correction.
I completely forgot to put Ken on the agenda with a presentation
on Back Channel Analysis with AMI. We will spend the 2nd half of
the meeting on that today.
Thanks,
Arpad
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Thanks Mike L. for the time change reminder. Please beware
that the US has already switched to Daylight Savings Time,
so we are already starting our days an hour earlier than in
the winter.
Arpad
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Agenda
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1) Opens
2) Call for any related patent disclosures
3) Review of ARs:
Arpad: Check where the GetWave block size clarification could be
added to the spec
- done (see below)
Ambrish: Start a BIRD draft for the Table syntax
- not done
Bob: Check BIRD 127 for type clarification possibilities
- in progress
Ken: Draft language to clarify handling of multiple channels
(cross talk BIRD)
- in progress
Ambrish: Start a BIRD on row 25 in the Task List
- in progress
Bob: Write a BIRD on correcting Table 1-3 in the spec.
(Row 23 in the Task List).
- in progress
Any other AR-s?
Old ARs:
Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries.
- deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do
4) Cross talk BIRD draft
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20110308/kenwillis/C
rosstalk%20Clarification%20BIRD%20draft%204/Xtalk_BIRD_4.pdf
- the editorial changes requested last week are included in
this version of the BIRD draft
- vote to submit the BIRD draft to the IBIS Open Forum
5) (Format) Table (including Row 21, 22)
- any update from Ambrish on writing the BIRD draft?
6) Model_Specific parameters Usage Out/InOut
- Since we do not know the meaning of these, what is
the EDA tool expected to do with them?
- Type Tap has a unique meaning, we could allow this,
but something should be mentioned in the spec on what
the tool is expected to do (plot, log file, etc).
- how about the rest of the Types? Does it make sense
to allow them?
7a) BIRD 121, data management parameters (file support)
- questions, comments?
7b) BIRD 123, jitter parameters
- how do we deal with Usage Out? (includes Row 37)
- remove it from the spec?
- specify that only the Init function can return values?
7c) BIRD 124, dependency table
8) GetWave block size
- It seems that the best place to define this is in BIRD 120,
Section 2.2.7:
| 7. The EDA platform generates a time domain digital input waveform bit
| pattern (stimulus). A long bit pattern (and simulation) may be broken
| up into multiple time segments by the EDA platform. For example, if
| one million bits are to be simulated, there can be 1000 segments of
| 1000 bits each, i.e., one time segment comprises 1000 bits.
Here we could add text to say that the segments are not required
to have the same length, and are not required to be an integer
number of bits long. Something like this:
| 7. The EDA platform generates a time domain digital input waveform bit
| pattern (stimulus). A long bit pattern (and simulation) may be broken
| up into multiple time segments by the EDA platform. For example, if
| one million bits are to be simulated, there can be 1000 segments of
| 1000 bits each, i.e., one time segment comprises 1000 bits. The
| segments are not required to be equally sized and are not required to
| contain an integer number of bits.
Remaining Task List items:
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Row 18: What is the ambiguity between Format and Text Strings?
- answer: See row 25
Row 21: According to the BNF, the Format = Table syntax is invalid.
- If Format is removed, this s not a problem, but if Format
is there the problem still exists. Do we need to fix this?
- we will address this when talking about Table
Row 22: The syntax for a leaf is:
(Row 22 in Task List)
<leaf>: ( <parameter name> whitespace <value list> )
So in a Table which is written like this: (-50 -0.1 1e-35),
-50 is actually a parameter name, i.e. a string, not a value.
-deprecate Table back to List?
- we will address this when talking about Table
Row 23/24: Fix the two tables to reflect what is in the text
- need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD
- Bob agreed to do this after the 2010 Asian Summit
Row 25: Define relationship between Type and Format
- discuss Walter's suggestions
- need someone to volunteer to write a BIRD
Row 26: This is basically the same as the items in Row 46-47.
Row 33: Is AMI_Init restricted to change first column of impulse_matrix
only?
- Sigrity is writing a BIRD draft on this (Ken)
Row 35: Clarify questions about impulse response
- this needs to be discussed
Row 37: Usage Out for reserved (jitter) parameters
- which function (Init or GetWave) can return these?
Row 46/47: Remove certain parameters and keywords
- this needs to be discussed
Thanks,
Arpad
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